LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Standard Hip Action vs. Delayed Hip Action Thread: Standard Hip Action vs. Delayed Hip Action View Single Post #68 12-03-2011, 08:35 AM 12 piece bucket Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Thomasville, NC Posts: 4,380 Originally Posted by Par71 I think I understand you now, 12pb: You do not try to fix in your mind the (original) Right Forearm Angle of Approach at Impact Fix (or at Address before preturning the Hips) and then preturn the Hips until the line between your Left Knee and your Right Hip becomes parallel to that (remembered) angle. Instead, you pre-turn the Hips at Adjusted Address (and also pre-straighten the Right Knee) until the line from the Left Knee to the Right Hip is parallel to the Right Forearm Angle of Approach that results from that preturn. So you can simply check these alignments by looking down after the preturn. YES SIR.... Pre-turn and pre-straighten to allow the abruptly inward hand path as dictated by the AOA... AOA...10-5-E....inward.....people have made a point that your hands can go too low and underplane...so how do you "adjust" to this inward direction? You are seeing the model...in my mind... AP's hands are IN but his clubhead is in and UP...how is this accomplished? Sweetspot up and deep hands below shoulder line and deep? 1. Palmer had a MASSIVE amount of hip turn (facilitated by an almost hyper extended right knee and bent left knee) allowing his right shoulder and right hip to reach deeeeep. BUT...why not underplane? 2. The inward component is from the TURNING PIVOT 3. The upward component is from the loading of the right elbow...Palmer elevated the club by bending his right elbow (as well as fanning and retracting it...more inward componet) 4. More upward from the LENGTHENING of his entire right side...right shoulder deep and high ...right hip deep and high...right leg long.....left side compressed....also allowing a centered motion with the AOA geometry...his right shoulder is not really "flat to the plane"...it is more UP AND DEEP to the plane...adjusted 10-5-E AOA plane...more in and steeper He IS NOT getting up by LIFTING...he is not raising his right humerus bone off his body....this allows his hands and the primary lever assembly to stay BELOW his right shoulder...he can immediately LAUNCH the lever assemblies and wedge structure down AND OUT on plane....his right shoulder is ON TOP of the left arm being the upper leg of the primary lever...providing the initial acceleration and then the LAUNCHING PAD You'll note if you put yourself in a top position (minus the archy left wrist) like Palmer with one of them ninja sticks or a dowel on the ground aproximating the AOA...your LEFT ARM will also be approximately parallel to the AOA at top...right shoulder and hip joints deep and high...no elevating the club by lifting the arms off the rib cage...upward from the loading of the right elbow..no right wrist cock disrupting the wedges...upward from a long and deep right side..reaching BACK AND STRIVING FOR HEIGHT.... Note the height of the right shoulders and shoulder slant difference....this is basically the difference between pitch and punch elbow and what it does to the rate that you achieve your axis tilt... Have a look at the swing at the 1:30 mark...BEAUTIFUL... __________________ Aloha Mr. Hand Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 12-03-2011 at 08:47 AM. 12 piece bucket View Public Profile Send a private message to 12 piece bucket Find all posts by 12 piece bucket