LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Rory..... Thread: Rory..... View Single Post #8 06-19-2011, 09:17 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by JTillery Right, obviously swinging.......guess Im asking my question poorly. Let's try again - when a "swinger" like Rory appears to use significant pivot over hands and drastically reduces clubface rotation through the strike for specific clubs or shots, is he " holding" the face? Is he a temporary steerer? Changing hinge action from shot to shot?....... Yes,a " manipulated" Hands Swinger but not necessarily Steerer unless he's affecting a Vertical Hinge and holding the face square to the hole. In a manner of speaking Vertical is intentional Steering. Well one of the three forms of Steering anyways. Only the True Swinger relies on CF alone to square the face and always via Horizontal. Imagine the shaft as made of string. No amount of hand manipulation will have any effect. Any golfer , manipulated hands swinger , hitter worth his salt can hold off a shot.....which is hand manipulation. In Homers manner of defining things , cataloguing things he often defined the two extremes and then the middle. True swinging being one extreme and similar to a rock on a string or more correctly a clubface on the end of a string. In his experiments he made a model just like this and it displayed ......Horizontal Hinging. No face manipulation possible. Im still not sure if there is such a thing as a true swinger out there playing golf? Maybe some guys approach it, at times. I dunno. Last edited by O.B.Left : 06-19-2011 at 09:27 PM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left