LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Woods vs. Irons Thread: Woods vs. Irons View Single Post #28 06-16-2011, 08:16 AM 12 piece bucket Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Thomasville, NC Posts: 4,380 Originally Posted by Etzwane I watched videos from Gregg McHatton that studied under Ben Doyle and Rick Nielson that is a student of McHatton, I watched Doyle's free videos as well. I looks to me they teach pivot controlled hands. McHatton insists a lot on soft wrists and hard work from the pivot, and I get the same feeling from seeing Ben Doyle in his video teaching students. My guess is that with pivot controlled hands they preferred to change the aiming point concept since they might not want to put "the mind on the hands". I think McHatton and Doyle part ways on that from my perspective . . . how do you have soft wrist and try to get the handle pointing at the target when your hands are covering your peter in the downstroke with your right elbow at your navel . . . looks like a recipe for tilting back and flashing the face . . . to me . . .that ain't Rhythm. Sorry I know this may be some sort of throwing stones at an apostle but this is off-plane plane handle raising tilting back to me. Accumulators release . . . how are you gonna get to the ball with that much trigger delay and shaft lean without tilting back? __________________ Aloha Mr. Hand Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand 12 piece bucket View Public Profile Send a private message to 12 piece bucket Find all posts by 12 piece bucket