[chipingguru]

The answer is almost identical to what yoda told me at cuscawilla a couple of weeks ago.

Nicely done.

To quote "there is no up in the golf machine".

And, it works!

I had gotten so obsesed with that doyle type impact position, i had started from impact fix. Correcting me to midhands/classic also made a dramatic improvement in the ball striking. Took the man all of five minutes to get that straightened out.

Like others, wish i had know about this in the 70's!