[ColtsFan]

Thanks just trying to understand. I swing flat back and under the plane on the downswing so I am constantly in search of something to fix this.

I think if you are swinging on the TSP vs elbow plane, with a zero shift (still shifting from elbow to TSP but its a small shift) you dont have to worry about shifting back down to the elbow plane. Think of Phil or Jack, if you look at where the shaft is half way down, its disecting their upper arm, its not lined up to the rt forearm like Hogan, Sergio,Trevino (DTL view)

but I digress...still trying to figure out the flat vs rotaed shoulder turn, and our friend OB is doing his best to help see the benefit of ...thanks OB!

Where's Kevin? I think he has been moving to more of steeper shoulder turn BS w/ good results