LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Hogan Right Shoulder Motion Elbow Plane Hitter Thread: Hogan Right Shoulder Motion Elbow Plane Hitter View Single Post #10 12-26-2010, 11:27 PM YodasLuke Lynn Blake Certified Master Instructor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 1,314 cp or cf Originally Posted by joe curtis yodas luke, how are you. hope you are having a great holiday season,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what some people here are looking for is not being discussed. on other websites they are discussing the two ways to release the clubhead. one method calls it cp or cf release. another calls it hitting with leverage or slinging the clubhead. it is not just about the right shoulder. what people are wanting to know is how to get to hogans positions instead of vj singh's thru the impact area. is there any difference in what one needs to do to accomplish the two differnt positions at impact? I don't profess to be an expert in all the methods out there. But, I know that CP stands for centripetal and CF stands for centrifugal. Whether those are the best names for each of the styles can be an entirely different discussion. I also know that this method has deep TGM roots. In the limited amount of CP and CF information to which I've been privy, it seems as if it's an expansion on Plane Line Tracing. From a Square Stance, the golfer would be able to trace multiple Plane Lines to the left of the target and multiple Plane Lines to the right of the target. But, each Plane Line is still a line. Personally: I prefer to rely on the same Plane Line and Stance Line relationship, with varying degrees of Angle of Attack based on the length of the club. If I change my Plane Line, I also change my Stance Line to match. In order to create curvature, I adjust my Grip to Clubface. Unless it's a specialty shot, I find little need for having 7 Plane Lines for every club in my bag. I like the Machine Concept. And, I'm not going to exclude 1-L-19. I'm not trying to cloud the water, but it's difficult to get too deep into this conversation about the two positions without considering many things: Golfer's stature, shallow or steep Angle of Attack, camera location, Steering, single Plane or bent Plane, Inside-Out, Outside-In, is Clubface affecting Plane, etc., etc., etc. __________________ Yoda knows...and he taught me! For those less fortunate, Swinging is an option. YodasLuke View Public Profile Send a private message to YodasLuke Visit YodasLuke's homepage! Find all posts by YodasLuke