[Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Delaware Golf

Originally Posted by rwh I think we all agree there is no Plane Shift on the Downstroke as Els' hands come directly down the Turned Shoulder Plane. However, because Els does not address the ball with an on-plane Right Forearm, the angle of inclination of the clubshaft (and his hands) are positioned several inches below the Turned Shoulder Plane. His hands don't arrive on the Turned Shoulder Plane until about shoulder high (the Top). That would be a single shift -- Elbow to Turned Shoulder. My final answer is......zero shift.....nada shift.....in plain english no shift. DG

Really Delaware, is that final answer out of stubbornness? Els HAS to shift, he starts below a turned shoulder plane at setup. Then in the downswing he comes down a turned shoulder plane. Please explain to me how he gets from his lower than turned shoulder plane setup to this turned shoulder downswing plane without shifting??

You guys are hung up on address and I'm watching the path of his hands and the club.....no shift, SORRY. Ernie DOES NOT START OUT ON THE ELBOW PLANE ANGLE!!! IT'S A FACT NOT AN OPINION. In the book, the model Diane is not set-up with an on-plane right forearm for the turned shoulder plane, she is set-up like Ernie.....it's interesting that she is set-up with an on-plane right forearm for the elbow plane!!!!!!

DG