LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Please God (or Yoda) help me! Thread: Please God (or Yoda) help me! View Single Post #4 05-01-2010, 03:07 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Yes, fo shizzle, Bucket is right on. Your mention of "over the top" given the "rights" is interesting to me. I had this tendency going on and it must be stopped as its a compression ruiner. Its founded in a misconception often........it was for me anyways. Here is what I mean. -I was a new Hitter and experiencing Angled Hinging and the associated Push Fade , fall off to the right tendency for the first time. Something I hadnt seen in my own game for decades being a life long hitter of draws and other more profound curvatures to the left. -Given the old axiom of the ball starting off in the direction the clubhead is traveling (.......something Homer opposed vehemently, which is now confirmed by Trackman), I put a subconscious pull on the ball to straighten out the push. Homer maintained that the ball leaves at right angles to the FACE and curves in a manner consistent with the divergence between face angle and clubhead path. - So two wrongs. Open face, cross line , out to in pull. Remember the Line of Compression for a straight line shot, given the angled plane and a ball placed back of low point is................in to out, cross line. To a degree depending on how far back of low point the ball is placed and the steepness of the plane angle. The more vertical the plane the more down and the less out , the less out to right field the Line Of Compression. Also the Hinge Action associated with total compression is Horizontal. No layback, closing only. Which means for the ball to head straight away it must separate from the face when it is pointing in that direction ..........so the face is therefore open at Impact. -the attempt to square up the face at impact and pull the clubhead path to the left to fix a pull is common but founded in a mis conception about the laws of ball flight. -throwing the clubface at the ball is another common "fix" that can set you back a month or so. A loss of the flat left wrist. Three wrongs. Oh the suffering. So as Bucket states a push is a FACE angle issue. Not a Clubhead path thing. Get back on the Line of Compression, "in to out" with a straight line base line, Arc or Angle of Approach, the Visual EQuivalents. 2-J-3 and 2-C-0. Keep swinging out till your divots point at the hole. Then check your Hinge Action and your clubface at Fix. Thrusting will tend towards to Angled which may require a slightly closed face at Fix. Or perhaps you are Swinging but have slipped into not gripping the club at Fix and are unknowingly adopting a square face at Adjusted which gives you an open face at Impact.......There is something like this going on I bet. Last edited by O.B.Left : 05-01-2010 at 03:14 PM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left