[Daryl]

Gentlemen, fellow Stankbutts , I sense ndwolfe's question remains unanswered.

Namely, given the advice to take the right shoulder down plane or at the ball in Start Down, should the right shoulder (shaft , right foremarm) be on the inclined plane at impact? Any amount of #3 angle or right arm bend would make this impossible no? What gives?

I answered the question.

Unfortunately, some of us (not Loren) are confused about the differences between Plane Angle, Plane Reference Points, Clubshaft Control, etc. I won't name anyone.