[KevCarter]

When you state that Brian Gay's right forearm is on-plane at address, I think that you are only looking at a golfer who uses little plane shift and who swings along a plane that is just below the turned shoulder plane. That will mean that his right forearm will lie along that plane angle if he keeps his arms "straightish" at address.

However, that doesn't mean that swinging like Brian Gay is desirable or better than alternative choices.

For example, here is a swing video of Stuart Appleby.

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Jeff.

Jeff,

Thank you, I appreciate you trying to help. Of course there is more than one way, that is the entire premise of The Golfing Machine. However...

Yoda has shown me through this video of Brian Gay a very valid way to set up and swing. He has documented areas in the yellow book to back it up. He has real world experience from thousands of lessons, displays it in action, and you can watch it in action at the highest level on TV. It is one thing to show fancy graphs and 3D images, and use words that only biomechanics understand, it is another to see it work in the real world. I believe in The Golfing Machine, I want to be what some doubters on other forums would call a "book literalist." My goal is to someday attend AI classes and attempt to pass the tests.

The way Brian Gay is setting up with his right forearm is going to be an option in what I teach, as will a double plane shift as Applebees swing is a wonderful model as well. I also like S&T, there are many valid options available that Homer Kelley would approve of.

I have chosen my course and that's where I am going to continue heading.

Thanks again,
Kevin