LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Aiming point for a swinger Thread: Aiming point for a swinger View Single Post #4 11-25-2008, 06:23 PM Jeff Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 701 Golfbulldog You wrote-: "Looking at Jeff Ritter in photo 3 - he has rotated the clubface off the inclined plane (ie. sweetspot plane seperate from shaft plane ...unlike at top/end) and still appears to have quite alot of wristcock....he has a FLW from top ...and is onplane. Do people think that he is releasing 2+3 simultaneously....releasing 3 before 2....or something else." You need to understand the differences between the standard swinger's swing (ala Tiger Woods or Anthony Kim) and the Hardy OPS swing. In the standard swing, there is a takeaway swivel action that gets the club toe to be straight-up at the end of the takeaway. Then there has to a release swivel action to reverse the process. By contrast, a Hardy OPS golfer keeps the clubface facing the ball during the takeaway and there is no start up swivel action. Their clubface is relatively closed to the clubhead arc throughout the swing. Therefore, during the downswing, there is no release swivel action - PA#3 doesn't have to rotate that much into impact because the clubface is closed to the clubhead arc during the downswing. In that sense, they are similar to hitters - who does not incorporate a startup swivel action and release swivel action in their swing pattern. Jeff. Jeff View Public Profile Find all posts by Jeff