I was privileged to be given two flashlights, joined end to end by a two way ferrule, by my mate Golfguru.
Since we are exhorted to swing, and monitor, the hands this arrangement, which loosely replicates a golf club grip, is ideal for the purpose of tracing the plane line. And, it costs bugger all!
I was privileged to be given two flashlights, joined end to end by a two way ferrule, by my mate Golfguru.
Since we are exhorted to swing, and monitor, the hands this arrangement, which loosely replicates a golf club grip, is ideal for the purpose of tracing the plane line. And, it costs bugger all!
Thanks Guru!
I lashed two flashlights together with duct tape - works perfectly well.
I doubt you got the same results but I get your opinion. I don’t have a problem with improvement of swing trainers and welcome it, but I do have a problem with people who knock of patents that someone has worked hard and spend a lot of time and money for.
The Smart Stick is not the only swing trainer to knock off one of mine. David Leadbetter has done the same with his swing setter but his advertizing has sold many of mine, so that is a good thing. This is my livelihood and I have no problem with competition and I really don’t worry about knockoffs as they are poor imitations of the real deal and are here today and gone tomorrow.
I am going on 13 years of successful development of positive transfer swing trainers and have seen many try and fail. It takes more than just looking like the product as there are many things one does not see for the balance and feel of the swing trainer that make it an effective positive transfer swing trainer. The smart stick will have a short marketing success and then you will not hear about it. This is what happens with most training aids. I have seen many come and go.
As for supporting it even if it was not a knock off, mine is superior as you can hit balls with it and it cost effective for the golfer.
John,
With all due respect, enough is enough!!! You doubt that Rob Noel got the same results? So do I because I doubt you could get the same results as a teacher of his caliber.
I have bit my cyber toungue long enough about your posts. I was about to post once before because I did not know who you were then you finally posted your name. Out of respect to you, your G.S.E.M. classification and because I have met you at the show I refrained from posting because I thought you might come around. My fault!!
There may be other sites where "bashing" is permitted but as for me I do not care for it. If you were a true "inventor" and "business-man" you may consider operating your own website where you can sell your products and pay homage to Mike Austin as you see appropriate. However, it should not be done here.
I appreciate Lynn for all he has given us for free and all of the help and support he has given me. I enjoy being a part of this site and choose to contribute in those areas where I feel I can make a contribution, club-fitting, playing, videos with Lynn. I do not post much because I chooese to read and then jump in when I feel it is needed. You have forced my hand to the keypad!!
Tom came to the Barclay's with his Smartstick and I truly enjoyed meeting him and learning about this training aid as well as others he was working on. He was a sponge for knowlege, not only how to make his inventions better, but also how to make himself better. He was very humble and complimentary of yours and other inventions.
The problem arises when someone like yourself feels that you have been slighted in some way because someone has more "marketing" money behind them and you invented something first or whatever. If there is a patent infringement then hire an attorney and prove your case in court. If you win I will appologize, but I do not think you have a case. I have used your pureswing and it is very good but nothing like the Smartstick. in fact, I am not a very tall person and I have a hard time hitting shots with the pureswing. I would give you suggestions on how to make it better but you obviously have ALL the answers.
I was one of the first people to comment negatively on this site about the smartstick and its cost, I was wrong and even posted as much. Most training aids are good for some applications but not all. The market will decide if a product costs to much not you or I can do this. I applaud Tom and Martin for making money on such a simple concept with such broad applications. Martin Hall has a terrific reputation as a teacher so his endorsement is worth money. Butch, Ledbetter, Rick Smith, and all of the other "popular" teachers get paid for there endorsements which will obviously drive up the cost.
I suggest you either hire a "name" instructor to promote your products or do a better job of marketing them yourself. Either way I do not care. Please do not be bitter for the success of others or anyone who has a different opinion than yours. Debate is a healthy thing, just like competition. There is nothing better than walking to the tee knowing you can beat your opponent. However, when you don't it is great to know that you can walk into the bar and enjoy a beer with him knowing that you gave it your all and toasting his success.
I know what I read- You were a Manzella guy at the time- that was one of the things he called us.
Hmmm I am now very curious about the factions within the TGM Church in the USA . I call it a Church since it seems like a division of religion over there.
Can it be that a lot of you feel that there is the good ole inferiority complex surfacing its head?
Who is on who's side over there? Can i get a list?
This is not directed towards 6bmike or anyone in particular
One thing from reading extensively i have noticed is that Lynn Blake does NOT rag on anyone . So maybe MR Blake does not have the inferiority complex raging that as humans we all have a predisposition too.
Bottom line is he probably knows what the F... he is talking about
Hmmm I am now very curious about the factions within the TGM Church in the USA . I call it a Church since it seems like a division of religion over there.
Can it be that a lot of you feel that there is the good ole inferiority complex surfacing its head?
Who is on who's side over there? Can i get a list?
This is not directed towards 6bmike or anyone in particular
One thing from reading extensively i have noticed is that Lynn Blake does NOT rag on anyone . So maybe MR Blake does not have the inferiority complex raging that as humans we all have a predisposition too.
Bottom line is he probably knows what the F... he is talking about
Lynn, of course knows the book better than anyone. It is not a secret that Lynn and BM went their own ways a couple of months after a workshop at Woodmont CC, but it was not over interpretation of the book. I have not signed on to BMs site since that workshop so I have no idea what he teaches these days but friendship and civility counts for a lot. Many on here post on both sites and count BM as a friend- I have no problem with that. He just ain't my cup of tea anymore. Ironically, Katarina hit the same time as Woodmont- I hope all of New Orleans and gulf coast is spared from the two 'canes approaching this time.
Lynn, of course knows the book better than anyone. It is not a secret that Lynn and Brian M. went their own ways after a workshop in Woodmont, but it was not over interpretation of the book. I have not signed on to BMs site since that workshop so I have no idea what he teaches these days but friendship and civility counts for a lot. Many on here post on both sites and count BM as a friend- I have no problem with that. He just ain't my cup of tea anymore. Ironically, Katarina hit the same time as Woodmont- I hope all of New Orleans and gulf coast is spared from the two 'canes approaching this time.
Righto that explains it somewhat.
Puerhitter/John with the new 3d trainer you got coming out can you hit balls with it?
Puerhitter/John with the new 3d trainer you got coming out can you hit balls with it?
I have made many changes and have added new swing trainers to what I call the Smart Golf System so that there is a model you hit balls with and one you don't with all of the swing trainers I offer.
I also make different clubs with the hittable swing trainers including a driver and different putters. Rover Golf is changing to Smart Golf System and I will have all the swing trainers of the smart golf system at the 2009 PGA show in Orlando.
John: What you fail to disclose to all who read your post is that the Smart Stick has two very expensive green lasers that can be seen outside in the brightest of sunlight on the greenest of grass. In addition the laser diode has a life span of 4000-5000 hours of on time which is a lifetime for a person using the Smart Stick 10-15 minutes per day. The Smart Stick also allows the teachers of the world and and the players of the world to use the Stick during a lesson, on the range prior to playing or just in the course of normal practice at the range. I will challenge you and anyone else to do this with mini mag flashlights. The Smart Stick has allowed the teachers of the world to simplify the swing plane to their students. When a student uses the Smart Stick they get instant feedback as to the path of the club and path of the hands. In the end this is helping students to eliminate sidespin. When they are on plane with a square club face at impact the result is straight shots. Another advantage of the Smart Stick is it fits right into your golf bag and is always available. Living in a world of technologial advancements I do not see why you would use flashlights tied onto or taped onto something that you cannot use outside where the game of golf is played. I appreciate the support of the people who have posted and actually seen and used the Smart Stick
If you read 3-F-4 in the 6th edition of the golfing machine book you will see why two Mag flashlights and a PVC pipe will do the job and for $200 less for that type of training. That is why I developed the 3-D laser swing trainer. It takes laser training to the next level. As for the bright green lasers I also use them in one of my hittable swing trainers and the retail price is $70 less than the smart stick. You can see the plane and hit balls all in one trainer. If you sold the smart stick for what it is worth and not pay for endorsements I might support it. But come on to sell it for over $200 and then sell a mat with lines on it for $50. You are telling the golfing public to bend over. Also you cannot tell if the club face is square with a dot laser. All it does is trace a line that is it. Two Mag flashlights in a PVC pipe will trace a line to.
Monitor your Hands Johnny boy not the clubface or green dot. The tracing allows the hands to 'roll ' on line properly without employing inferior position golf. I remember being one of the early posters about the smart stick after seeing a prototype in a bag of an instructor at a golf course I play at in NJ. I can't remember Tom coming on here to sell his product in the same vain as you do. I don't know how he got to Barclay but he was a perfect fit working with Hull, Noel, Castner, Fort, and EdZ. Maybe you should take a lesson in marketing from him. Lynn once handed out a small laser that you pinched with pp#3 finger to traced the plane line- in fact you can just point at it and run back and forth to train your right forearm tracing- cheaper still.
Over and Out.
monitor you hands- forget the clubface, - the hands are boss (and right in front of you)
If you read 3-F-4 in the 6th edition of the golfing machine book you will see why two Mag flashlights and a PVC pipe will do the job and for $200 less for that type of training. That is why I developed the 3-D laser swing trainer. It takes laser training to the next level. As for the bright green lasers I also use them in one of my hittable swing trainers and the retail price is $70 less than the smart stick. You can see the plane and hit balls all in one trainer. If you sold the smart stick for what it is worth and not pay for endorsements I might support it. But come on to sell it for over $200 and then sell a mat with lines on it for $50. You are telling the golfing public to bend over. Also you cannot tell if the club face is square with a dot laser. All it does is trace a line that is it. Two Mag flashlights in a PVC pipe will trace a line to.
John,
If you knew how the Smartstick worked you would not sound so Ignorant!! The verticle bar represents the clubface and allows the player yet another visual tool to enhance learning the proper release sequence. When I used it at the Barclays and explained the purpose of the arm PEOPLE GOT IT.
Like I said before, people will pay for what they want and the market, not you or I, will set the price. I do not care if you feel the need to support it or not, just quit sounding like an arrogant, bitter man.
I have been a Golf Professional for almost 20 years and I have followed some simple rules. One of them is that there are plenty of quality products in our industry so I choose to do business with people I like and respect. Unfortunately you have chosen to act in such a way that violates this rule. I know you do not care if I support your products or not so it is probably no big loss that I choose not to.
It seems that you have alot of free time on your hands, might I suggest some online classes on Sales and Marketing. You might see that your products are worth more than you think and you could actually make more money. If you choose not to then at least stop making LBG your own personal website. I can see why you were banned from another site and would personally not care if it happened here. Opinions are welcome, constant berating will not be tolerated. Learn from Tom Smart who praises other inventions publicly.
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