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Old 10-21-2007, 10:44 PM
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Hitting as it has been demonstrated in the TGM world is a very needy pattern.
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:57 PM
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Hitting the longer clubs
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From a reveiw of the posts contained herein, it looks like most are having consistant problems hitting longer irons or woods.
I find that most that are having trouble with the longer clubs are getting lost in Over-Acceleration. The Rhythm is so bad that the right arm cannot straighten.

Also, Steering could be a culprit. I've often seen Steering mistaken for an Angled Hinge Action.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:08 PM
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Hitter's Drive Action
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I find that most that are having trouble with the longer clubs are getting lost in Over-Acceleration.
Ted,

Swingers have the Pivot (Body Momentum Transfer) to help them sustain the Drive of the Left Arm and Club through Release and Impact. What are your thoughts about the Hitter and his need to continue that Drive (from Release) via the Right Arm?
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:11 PM
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Ted,

Swingers have the Pivot (Body Momentum Transfer) to help them sustain the Drive of the Left Arm and Club through Release and Impact. What are your thoughts about the Hitter and his need to continue that Drive (from Release) via the Right Arm?
In order to have any Right Arm available in Release, the bent Right Arm (potential energy) has to be delivered to a Release point. When the Right Arm straightens, it becomes kinetic energy. When the Right Arm is actively being employed as a power source, it doesn't mean that you have to use a Full Sweep Release. I find this to be a hurdle for Hitters, with some thinking that Hitting means Zero Pivot, Right Arm only, and Right Arm thrust beginning in Start-Down. It's no wonder that some believe that they can't get power from Hitting.

One of the things that I try to imagine is the club moving faster after Impact. It makes me start slower and accelerate later.

Also, I find tremendous force in using all 4 Accumulators. It's great when you need to Hit one into a different zip code.
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Right elbow at Top
Ted,

Can you comment on the position of the right elbow at the Top? I think people hear don't have a "flying elbow" and they try to keep it pointed down. I find if I can keep my right right arm 90 deg to the plane it helps my driving motion.

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Old 11-05-2007, 11:32 PM
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Ted,

Can you comment on the position of the right elbow at the Top? I think people hear don't have a "flying elbow" and they try to keep it pointed down. I find if I can keep my right right arm 90 deg to the plane it helps my driving motion.

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I think that many get position oriented instead of plane and load oriented. As an aside, it's something that I find comical about the "one plane", lawnmower type Start-Up. I hope I'm not stepping on too many toes, but I'm shocked that so many have fallen under that spell. You're feeling very, very sleepy. When I clap my hands, you will wake up, and you will be a one planer. But, I'm sure just as many have carried the proverbial tray at the Top, to no avail.

When the Flying Wedges are understood, the smoke and mirrors of position golf are destroyed. The look of the elbow and Right Forearm can be dramatically different based on the steepness of the Plane. Jack was obviously different than Hogan. Who was correct? Both were correct. It's the beauty of TGM: variety.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:23 AM
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The True One-Plane Swing
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I think that many get position oriented instead of plane and load oriented. As an aside, it's something that I find comical about the "one plane"...

All this should probably be in another thread -- Bagger, help! -- and I should probably be asleep, but for now...

Here is my belated, much tongue-bitten take on the now well-known 'One Plane' Swing.

Per the illustrations in Jim Hardy's explanatory book(s), videos and commercials -- the 'One Plane Swing' puts the left arm in line with the shoulders -- right and left -- at the top. In other words, the arm swing and shoulders share the same 'one plane'. This is a very flat swing plane -- at best, an Elbow Plane -- that forfeits the Right Shoulder support (of the Hands) during the Start Down and Downstroke.

Fortunately, there is another 'One Plane' swing, the Turned Shoulder Plane of The Golfing Machine. Here the Hands arrive at the Top In Plane with the Right Shoulder and the Ball. The Left Shoulder obviously lies above that Plane. Even if, from Address, there is a Plane Shift during the Backstroke -- normally from an Elbow Plane to the Turned Right Shoulder Plane -- the Straight Line Hands-Right Shoulder-Ball relationship from the Top continues to rule.

In other words, the geometrically-ideal 'One Plane' swing is NOT on the flattish plane of the backstroke shoulder turn. Instead, it is on the plane of the Hands -- through the Right Shoulder -- to the Ball.
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
All this should probably be in another thread -- Bagger, help! --.

Thanks Yoda and YodasLuke,

As always, great precision in the answers!

Bagger, PLEASE, help!


Let´s not forget that how we see things, through our glasses with the knowledge that we get throgh the book and this website, doesn´t always "match up" with how others see through their glasses.

Therefore, Mr Hardys definition of his one plane is valid, in his world

Furthermore, that this pivot controlled hands type of motion is not as precise as hand controlled pivot, is yet another thread.........

BAGGER!!!!
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Have a student, 16 years old, wants to be nr 1 in the world 2o17 by the way... Today a rotated shoulder turn with the hands/clubshaft in a x-classification plane under the right shoulder. Regarding the planeangle, what would you do?

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