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Old 05-30-2007, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bmike View Post
Year after Year, someone shouts- 'You are pivot control Hands" without understanding the reason for a pivot. As long as the hips do not control the Hands and arms along the delivery path, as long as the Hips do not move the club after it is loaded and ready to whirl or be driven- the hands are in control.

In fact Homer said that a shoulder take-away is pivot control. The turning hips and shoulders move the club- not the Hands. Like wise on the downstroke, dropping the hands into the slot and whirling the arms the way Standard Hip action describes might be Pivot control. Standard Hip Action might be a pivot control component. Homer thought little of Standard and only listed it because it was the way golf was played fror 200 years.

But understanding might be tough. TT, at one time, had student cross out 'Hands control Pivot' in the book saying it was easier to monitor the pivot, with the same basic stroke pattern. So if even an AI of TT caliber had it wrong at one time - confusion might be the norm. Thank Goodness for Yoda shedding light and making Homer's easier to understand.

No way can anyone tell me that my pivot overrides my Hands task.

Hmmmmmm.....I must be confused....the only difference between 10-15-A and 10-15-B is the backstroke.

The interesting thing about your comment regarding the issue with the student and pivot controlled hands.....it appears the student didn't give you all of the information to why Tommy would have made such a suggestion. I know exactly why....it's in the book and I have Tomasello discussing it on cassette tape. I think if you knew the true reason you would eat your words regarding the comment, "an AI of TT caliber had it wrong at one time"...standard hip, delayed hip, pivot controlled hands, hands controlled pivot.....Tommy's kept his hands on the straight line delivery path. BOTTOM LINE. That means only one thing, his mind were in his hands (that's the basis for hand controlled pivot). They had to be or a true standard hip action would generate an angled delivery path. My guess is the student your referencing had problems keeping his/her arms on plane.



Without Tommy here to defend his position....this is all pot shots. I'm sure Homer and Tommy are looking down at this in disgust.


DG

Last edited by Delaware Golf : 05-30-2007 at 10:56 PM.
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