[birdie_man]

K I can't do it.....tear myself away that is....I never can....(I guess I sound like an alky or a CRACKhead here)....

Like everything else, to do it right takes practice.

To do a Stationary Head correctly? No doubt it does. Personally, I still am not sold that it's superior.

If you ever get paired with Mike O . . . better Sway Bob and move your head all over the place. Last guy that beat him ended up hotdawg chili.

Keep bobbing and weavin so it don't get cut off?

Stand on a mirror that won't break,
go to the top the head will appear to have moved.

What do you mean appear to have moved? Are you saying there is some kind of illusion? I would think getting video would be best.

Like the (mostly) shiftless plane is the goal so is the (mostly) Stationary Head.

So you're saying those things are merely ideals then?

I can see em as conceptual ideals a lot of the time...not real ideals. Concepts. That's how I see it mostly. Personally.

Reality has to be dealt with.

I agree that reality must be dealt with...

The head moves and the plane shifts.

I assume you mean "When trying for a Stationary Head and Zero shift the head moves and the plane shifts."

No?

That can also be true.

I don't think of them as ideals for (all?) humans tho so when my head moves and my plane shifts it's not an error in execution. (but that's just me)

Watch the video of Mr Kelley on this site. I figure 40 yrs of study and practice he could replicate what he taught.

His chin swivels to the right- does his head move? It appears to slighlty.

You know he must be trying for a Stationary head anyway.

And it's fairly Stationary....and you would expect it to be because he favored it.

We know that already tho so the fact that HK is doing it really is not surprising in the least....

The issue is whether this really IS the ideal all or even most of the time....not whether HK prefers it.

(although I don't think HK ever said anything but The 3 Imperatives MUST be done by every golfer)

He does bob quite a bit in this clip tho. I realize he is likely demonstrating something to someone (he's obviously emphasizing something there....prolly relating to Impact)...there is a bob tho. But w/e.

I focus on his pivot. The pivot controls the sway or lack there of. Isn't the point for a stationary head to eliminate the sway and bob???

YES I agree that would be the point.

When you are BUILDING A MACHINE to swing a club it's true.....there is absolutely no reason for it's "head" (whether that be a post or w/e) to move. (sway and/or bob)

But that's when you're building a machine. You can build it however you want.

As I've already said....I think.....that the "human machine" (if this is what we want to call it) is different.