These images essentially show a lag pressure drill recomended by Hogan in Modern Fundamentals of Golf ( photo taken from DL's book Modern Fundamentals of Hogan)
What would happen if we used Lidocaine to anaesthetise the skin over pp3?? Suddenly become pivot controlled hands??
We would knock out the nerves which carry impulses from pressure sensors which presumably are the origin of PP3 experience. Might be able to achieve some effect with topical anaesthesia ( like they do with kids for needles)... but may need to pin Bucket down and get the hypodermic!
These images essentially show a lag pressure drill recomended by Hogan in Modern Fundamentals of Golf ( photo taken from DL's book Modern Fundamentals of Hogan)
What would happen if we used Lidocaine to anaesthetise the skin over pp3?? Suddenly become pivot controlled hands??
We would knock out the nerves which carry impulses from pressure sensors which presumably are the origin of PP3 experience. Might be able to achieve some effect with topical anaesthesia ( like they do with kids for needles)... but may need to pin Bucket down and get the hypodermic!
Volunteers please form an orderly queue!!!!!!
Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??????
Dude where'd you find that pic? That is cool!
It would be sweet to see Mr. Hogan perform that drill and see if he got the old Quarter Turn? It sure looks like it has loaded on the the knuckle to me???
A possible excellent drill was mentioned in the forums, but mentioned, not described with more explanations. From the forums:
Originally Posted by Yoda
EdZ,
We're not talking about the 90 degree Flying Wedges Alignment. We're talking about the tremendous difference in the crooked positioning of the Forefinger itself. Do you see it? Have you tried it? It is this positioning that creates so much pressure at #1 and #3 and that make this drill so effective.
From this drill, lag/clubhead inertia maginitude and direction has been said to help beginners and incubating players to "amplify, as speaking louder when the hearing sense state is not enough to become aware of the voice at the beginning", feel this, become aware/realize of the ESSENCE(monitor the clubhead through the pressure point sensing functions and received information about clubhead condition by hands feel).
Anybody that knows and has seen this crooked forefinger drill, post some images/photos to illustrate the way the finger is crooked, and the grip here to practice this drill, please.
It would be sweet to see Mr. Hogan perform that drill and see if he got the old Quarter Turn? It sure looks like it has loaded on the the knuckle to me???
Hmmmmmmm . . .
Run Forrest!!!!!!!!!
“And a final word about those potential swing-wreckers, the right forefinger and thumb… an extremely beneficial exercise is to practise ( perhaps five minutes daily for a week) is to grip the club and swing it with the right forefinger and thumb entirely off the shaft”
Modern Fundamantals of Golf by Ben Hogan
Photo from Leadbetter's book "The Fundamentals of Hogan"
Ben Hogan ( in Home movie video in gallery) almost does this drill when displaying HIS pressure points in the grip... I think that 5 minutes daily for life is the minimium!
Also to do this right hand only with eyes closed... have a go... it seems like a good way to get people to realise that LAG is something that you experience rather than just the appearance of left wristcock ( which is commonly considered as the visual equivalent)... of course now you are hitting but it makes the point that lag is not wristcock alone...you see what i mean...? i think...?
My point about numbing pp3 was only slightly joking... it would be fascinating to see what happened to a players precision if you deprived the swing of its primary sensor! Go on bucket , next time you go to the dentist , ask them to slip the little needle in around pp3... then off to the range make sure you got video though!
You would still technically have "position sense" receptors telling your brain how cocked the left wrist was but LAAAGGG is so much more than that... don't you think?
Last edited by golfbulldog : 02-15-2007 at 03:37 AM.
You see, Bucket.... i was only half-joking...in the real lab you could get away with this kind of stuff!
Whilst i recommend numbing pp3... i do not advise intra-articular injection of fingers or the left wrist!!!!!!!! but if you were looking to volunteer... we could find some space in a country whose science is not held back by minor considerations such as "ethics committees"....
“And a final word about those potential swing-wreckers, the right forefinger and thumb… an extremely beneficial exercise is to practise ( perhaps five minutes daily for a week) is to grip the club and swing it with the right forefinger and thumb entirely off the shaft”
Modern Fundamantals of Golf by Ben Hogan
Photo from Leadbetter's book "The Fundamentals of Hogan"
Ben Hogan ( in Home movie video in gallery) almost does this drill when displaying HIS pressure points in the grip... I think that 5 minutes daily for life is the minimium!
Also to do this right hand only with eyes closed... have a go... it seems like a good way to get people to realise that LAG is something that you experience rather than just the appearance of left wristcock ( which is commonly considered as the visual equivalent)... of course now you are hitting but it makes the point that lag is not wristcock alone...you see what i mean...? i think...?
My point about numbing pp3 was only slightly joking... it would be fascinating to see what happened to a players precision if you deprived the swing of its primary sensor! Go on bucket , next time you go to the dentist , ask them to slip the little needle in around pp3... then off to the range make sure you got video though!
You would still technically have "position sense" receptors telling your brain how cocked the left wrist was but LAAAGGG is so much more than that... don't you think?
That was pretty funny! . . . . My hygenist is hot too . . . .
I USED TO THINK a cocked left wrist was lag . . . . but it ain't!
It would be sweet to see Mr. Hogan perform that drill and see if he got the old Quarter Turn? It sure looks like it has loaded on the the knuckle to me???
Hmmmmmmm . . .
Run Forrest!!!!!!!!!
I'm pretty sure that there is another picture in 5 Lessons of Ben Hogan's hands on the club with the word 'Pressure' that has two arrows: one pointing to the meaty part of PP3 on the back of the shaft, and the other pointing right on the top of the shaft.
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From this drill, lag/clubhead inertia maginitude and direction has been said to help beginners and incubating players to "amplify, as speaking louder when the hearing sense state is not enough to become aware of the voice at the beginning", feel this, become aware/realize of the ESSENCE(monitor the clubhead through the pressure point sensing functions and received information about clubhead condition by hands feel).
Anybody that knows and has seen this crooked forefinger drill, post some images/photos to illustrate the way the finger is crooked, and the grip here to practice this drill, please.
Here are the two pictures I made of the drill I called Yoda's Secret. The name stemmed from the Norman's Plastic wrist training aid and the fact this drill loudly linked pp3 to the brain.
Here are the two pictures I made of the drill I called Yoda's Secret. The name stemmed from the Norman's Plastic wrist training aid and the fact this drill loudly linked pp3 to the brain.
Thanks Mike - it is all about intensifying your feedback off pp3/ loss of lag pressure etc. I came across that drill in the old stuff but it is great to bring it back fresh and in colour like that... although the choice of shirt??
This is a way of teaching people who have neither lag sensation nor any concept of pp3 about lag sensation - it proves that it works.
The anaesthetic option would work the other way... take soem ultranatural tour pro... who naturally discoved lag sensation but doesn't call it that... just does it coz it works... now see what happens if your numb up his pp3.!!
Have any pros every tried to teach players who have peripheral neuropathy?? ( ie. a condition with altered/ absent sensation in their limbs?? I think that they would have to be pivot controlled hands...
I'm pretty sure that there is another picture in 5 Lessons of Ben Hogan's hands on the club with the word 'Pressure' that has two arrows: one pointing to the meaty part of PP3 on the back of the shaft, and the other pointing right on the top of the shaft.
Yes - it is in the grip section and is more on top of the shaft than pp3 would be at address. The fact that it is in the section where he discusses grip makes it feel static pressure is being described rather than the dynamic pp3 pressure ... but maybe Hogan was leaving the odd clue!
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