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Old 12-11-2010, 04:19 PM
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I know that TGM operates with two kinds of golfers - swingers and hitters. I have read somewhere - don't remember where - that someone also mentioned a 3th group - throwers.

I always thought I was a hitter because I was hitting at the ball - but it's probably more of a hacker problem than anything else. But what I really am - in others sports - is a thrower. Is this a 3th category - allthough not mentioned in TGM - or where does a thrower belong if he should be a swinger or a hitter?

BTW - Yoda made me give up the notion of being a hitter. That should accordingly make me a swinger. Could I be a thrower (of nature) and still be a swinger - or am I just an average golfer (regardless of hitting or swinging) and the swinging approach is a better way to deal with my biggest problem : OTT.
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Old 12-11-2010, 05:29 PM
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Air the thrower as a third group is one of those instances where its all a matter of definition. To be frank Homer wrote a beautiful book that perhaps no two people understand in the same way. As such people can unknowingly operate outside of Homer's intended definition of things and start to build upon those misconceptions. Their logic is good , they arent necessarily wrong per say but it doesn't square with Homer's definition. At worst it can be a horrible mess, like castles made of sand.

The man who put forth the Thrower could perhaps take someone all the way to the PGA tour under his tutelage and definition of things. He is not wrong necessarily .....its just an apples vs oranges type thing.


So to answer your question from a TGM perspective..........Homer identified a lot of throwing motions but all of them are within the confines of the two basic patterns, Swinging and Hitting. See "Pitch Elbow", "The Right ARm Throw" , Active vs Passive Right Arm extension, Right Arm Swinging , The Bat Basic Stroke etc etc. In fact the only time you're right arm is not making a throwing type motion is when its not Fanning as in "Fanning and Bending" Push Basic for instance. Then its more of an inline punching motion.

Even passive right arm extension, Swinging, when coupled with Extensor Action can feel very right sided. Homer's book is very right sided in nature. Most of us are right handed so it makes sense.

There are many "throwing" like motions, options in TGM. So, throw if you want to. I do.

By the way , despite what a lot of people may think, Hitting, Total Motion is not an inline jabbing, like motion. It can be in Basic Motion or Acquired even if you so choose but not for a full shot. In other words both Swinging and HItting in Total Motion have throwing like right arm motions. Fanning and bending. Swinging can get to a Pitch Right Elbow position but they are both like a side armed throw at the Aiming Point. Hitting being an Active right arm extension, while swinging is Passive. In one the Right Arm is throwing and in the other the right arm is thrown. The right arm in Swinging is not truely passive after all, dead, its not really "just along for the ride". If it were you could detach it from the club and perform just as effectively. Extensor Action , the Right Forearm Flying Wedge etc......it has a job to do.

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Old 12-11-2010, 05:38 PM
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Air the thrower as a third group is one of those instances where its all a matter of definition. To be frank Homer wrote a beautiful book that perhaps no two people understand in the same way. As such people can unknowingly operate outside of Homer's intended definition of things and start to build upon those misconceptions. Their logic is good , they arent necessarily wrong per say but it doesn't square with Homer's definition. At worst it can be a horrible mess, like castles made of sand.

The man who put forth the Thrower could perhaps take someone all the way to the PGA tour under his tutelage and definition of things. He is not wrong necessarily .....its just an apples vs oranges type thing.


So to answer your question from a TGM perspective..........Homer identified a lot of throwing motions but all of them are within the confines of the two basic patterns, Swinging and Hitting. See "Pitch Elbow", "The Right ARm Throw" , Active vs Passive Right Arm extension, Right Arm Swinging , The Bat Basic Stroke etc etc. In fact the only time you're right arm is not making a throwing type motion is when its not Fanning as in "Fanning and Bending" Push Basic for instance. Then its more of an inline punching motion.

Even passive right arm extension, Swinging, when coupled with Extensor Action can feel very right sided. Homer's book is very right sided in nature. Most of us are right handed so it makes sense.

There are many "throwing" like motions, options in TGM. So, throw if you want to. I do.

By the way , despite what a lot of people may think, Hitting, Total Motion is not an inline jabbing, like motion. It can be in Basic Motion or Acquired even if you so choose but not for a full shot. In other words both Swinging and HItting in Total Motion have throwing like right arm motions. Fanning and bending. Swinging can get to a Pitch Right Elbow position but they are both like a side armed throw at the Aiming Point. Hitting being an Active right arm extension, while swinging is Passive.
Thx for your input. Interesting.
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:37 AM
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Finding the answers in the Gallery - Look up Tomasello
Originally Posted by airair View Post
I know that TGM operates with two kinds of golfers - swingers and hitters. I have read somewhere - don't remember where - that someone also mentioned a 3th group - throwers.

I always thought I was a hitter because I was hitting at the ball - but it's probably more of a hacker problem than anything else. But what I really am - in others sports - is a thrower. Is this a 3th category - allthough not mentioned in TGM - or where does a thrower belong if he should be a swinger or a hitter?

BTW - Yoda made me give up the notion of being a hitter. That should accordingly make me a swinger. Could I be a thrower (of nature) and still be a swinger - or am I just an average golfer (regardless of hitting or swinging) and the swinging approach is a better way to deal with my biggest problem : OTT.
Watch the Tomasello videos in the gallery and I think you'll find the answer to your question.

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Old 12-14-2010, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf View Post
Watch the Tomasello videos in the gallery and I think you'll find the answer to your question.

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ok - any of them in particular?
I have looked at them before - but I didn't think so much about the throwing aspect then. But I remember him making a underhand throw - which is fine in golf. But most of the throwing in real life is overhand throwing - which is terrible in golf (OTT).
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Old 12-14-2010, 06:39 AM
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If I said that Id like to edit it. Wonder how many Molsons Id had that night? Was that a late saturday night post after another Leaf loss? Is there a breathalizer app that'll lock an Iphone?

You been saving that for the right occasion there, D? People who live in glass houses shouldnt throw ......... Hey remember "meatball methods"? I chuckle just saying that ..... that was a tour de force until Bagger shut your Cub lov'n rear end down dude.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/a...d=129210480 3
I'm not sure what this is all about..?
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:13 AM
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I'm not sure what this is all about..?
Chicago Cubs.
Thats an "inside Baseball" thing.

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