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Old 01-06-2011, 10:28 PM
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Draw with angle hinge?
All things being equal in "standard "golf swing,if one chooses angle hinging can the resulting ball travel be draw or fade.
I suppose the real question is ,can you draw the ball with angle hinging.......thanks in advance
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:30 PM
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Easily, regardless of Hinge Action.
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:36 PM
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Thanks Daryl,
Im gunna have to have a BETTER listen to TT,I was under impression that angle hinge produces fade,talk about getting confused
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Old 01-06-2011, 11:22 PM
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Thats it????????
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Easily, regardless of Hinge Action.
Thats it? how simple is that.....enuf
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Old 01-06-2011, 11:29 PM
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:55 PM
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D, I love your drawings but I dont think that is quite right. Like all things Homer its a confusing bit of business .......so it could very well be that Im in the wrong.

To decipher 7-2 I believe one needs to understand Homers definition of a True Swinger. Tell me how I'm doing here:

CF alone aligns the clubface which to Homer meant (amongst other things) that as the ball is moved back in the stance the grip is not "Rotated". See 6-H-0 IMPERATIVES E and F points #3. E Being Hitting and F ( True) Swinging.

What does this mean to impact geometry? Given that the True Swinger doesnt Rotate hIs grip as he moves the ball back in his stance his clubhead moves back and the face opens accordingly. To compensate for this open face he Rotates his Plane Line to the left to square the face to the target but in so doing creates a divergence in Path and Face which if given enough speed, not too much loft etc will tend to produce a fade.

The Manipulated Hands Swinger or the Hitter on the other hand will (amongst other things, Hinge Action for instance) Rotate the Grip for balls played back so as to square the face to the target. As the ball moves back along the inside/out Arc of Approach there is also divergence this time tending towards a draw.

It had me stumped for a while but I think got this one particular riddle figured out......maybe.

You know Homer had it all figured out but the way he explained things was not his strongest suit it would seem. But, that said, if you ever try to rework his writings .......you fall flat on your face. It aint nearly as easy at it seems. I wish he'd done more drawings, like yours for instance, D.

When BerntR and Bear finish with their time machine (they're getting really close they tell me) we'll have to send you back to Homers lab so you can help him out with some drawings for his book. Man he'd loved that opportunity I bet.

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Old 01-08-2011, 08:04 PM
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O.B.,

Your interpretation-explanation, and my drawings - match. If you don't think so, then please explain.

Is this drawing easier to understand?

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Old 01-10-2011, 12:15 PM
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All things being equal in "standard "golf swing,if one chooses angle hinging can the resulting ball travel be draw or fade.
I suppose the real question is ,can you draw the ball with angle hinging.......thanks in advance
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While Angled does tend towards a push or a fade if not compensated for with a clubface adjustment at fix, you can still hit draws and hooks easily by rotating your plane line to the right to create more divergence between face angle and clubhead path. The more divergence the more tilted the backspin the more curve. This for what you call a standard swing or geometrically correct swing.

Now if you're really talking about hitting draws and hooks despite the fact you think you're Angled Hinging along a Square Plane Line, then that's a different matter all together. But in Homers world all roads do lead back to impact geometry and so the answer to that one lies there as well.

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