Diagram 2-C-3 is a thrower if by that term you mean throwawayer. Intentional throwaway when used by design. Or the Pause Minor Basic Stroke although its maybe Intentional Quitting and Throwing.
Also somewhere, cant remember where Homer said that even the guys on tour can have some amount of throwaway but if separation occurs prior to the overtaking of the hands by the clubhead the law of the flail still rules and the shot is not lost. Going all the way down and out isnt that common maybe.
My apologies if you are referring to Pitch Elbow or Active Right Arm extension with a Punch Elbow which is very much like a side arm throwing motion , especially when done with the Aiming Point Procedure or the Right Arm Swing or or or ..
"Maybe both- longitudinal acceleration of a radial motion."
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For instance - Zero Hip Action is the Hip Action that is compatible with Zero Pivot. Again – Straight Line Power Package Delivery is not possible with the Shiftless Hip Turn. Again – Pull Stroke (Left Arm Swing) rules out the use of Radial Acceleration (10-19-A).
Seems to me Daryl had it right...
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Pull stroke rules out the use of Radial Acceleratioon (10-19-A)
How the rope handling powers the stroke is IMO one of the most misunderstood topics of TGM.
The only way you can create clubhead speed is to pull from ahead or push from behind. The physics involved is very simple.
If you want to create speed by pulling - on a linear path, you'd better run fast If you do it on a circular path, you need to pull from something that rotates and stays ahead on the curve. Like turning left shoulder. Or the turning hands, kept out in orbit and ahead of the clubhead by extencior action. Luckily, that's what happens when you do the rope handling thing.
Anything you do to speed up the club can be decomposed as pulling and pushing (and torquing if you wish). Newton is very clear on this point: In order to do any work (and work here is create clubhead speed) you have to apply forces with the same direction as the motion. Pulling a rope from a swing center (centripetal acceleration) doesn't increase or reduce swing speed no matter how heavy it feels. It only conserves. Pulling from a point that is leading ahead on the curve and torqed around the swing center conservs and increases at the same time.
As long as the left shoulder stays ahead of the hands, and the hands stays ahead of the clubhead in the turn, any pulling will add speed. If you try to push on a straight line you will run out of arms in no time. Hitting and swinging are both depending on a turning pivot that leads the hands through impact.
I would be interested in hearing others opinion and a third category, not mentioned in TGM, the THROWER.
Does the category exist and how does it square with TGM?
Which TGM alignments would be compatible with the "THROWER”?
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In short , Id say that the Thrower pattern as outlined by Ralph Sunnyside can be found in the yellow book. But not as a "third category". RS defines three basic actions: muscular thrust , weight shift and rotation. Homer stuck to pushing vs pulling and didnt rank weight shift as even a power accumulator now that I think about it. Hmmmm. Its all a matter of definition again.
These sorts of discussions are really good I believe. Definition leading to identification . Identification to separation. Separation to mastery (or to insanity perhaps, not sure right now).
Couple of quick points:
-he's talking about hitting as a right arm punch , not so for Major Basic strokes....see what Homer termed the "Right Arm Throw". Its another throwing like motion this time with Active Right Arm extension. Push Basic is the inline punch of the right arm..........for short shots only.
-Hitters have pivot lag in Total Motion.
-I like D's point about longitudinal vs radial .......its a big subject so Im not going to start into it here. I love Bernts post too. In regard to what is mutually exclusive Id suggest that's it. You can not Longitudinal and Radial at the same time. (Can you?) Longitudinal then Radial? ....sure even 12-2 has Radial. In a motor boat pulling a skier kinda way (nothing pushes the skier radially, the boat turns around the small pulley wheel and cf throws the skier out, the speed of the skier going from the boats speed to boat speed plus plus). Or you could Radial only, 12-1 Drive Loading. (not the only way to hit by anymeans). But not Radial then Longitudinal or Longitudinal only. Longitudinal doest have any associated CF throwout. 'Cause its traveling in a straight line. If you're "arrow from quivering" you're not Releasing. This is the straight line hand path , be it theoretical or real.
-I thought I said I wasnt going to get into this, no I didnt, yes I did! ... .... ( No I didnt.) Uh Oh this aint mastery this is insanity.
If you do it on a circular path, you need to pull from something that rotates and stays ahead on the curve. Like turning left shoulder. Or the turning hands, kept out in orbit and ahead of the clubhead by extencior action. Luckily, that's what happens when you do the rope handling thing. 
Hybrid Mode
