Air, you Sir are on fire, again. Thank you for these wonderful links. Didn't know Yoda was posting new video ...glad to see that.
At the risk of being redundant Id like to post the text from one of your links for those who may have missed it. It is an often misunderstood bit of business and very important . Namely the visual condition of the Flat left wrist when cocked or re cocked.
Mr Blake and I spent several hours discussing this very thing on my last visit to Cuscowilla. Put simply the Flat Left Wrist when cocked is not visually flat . Grip type being a factor in the degree of bend apparent. Well we discussed this and several other relating or companion things which Ill try to outline as well. All of these issues when understood allow you to see what the geometrically correct hand conditions look like at various points in the swing, the freewheeling swing ideally.
If the left arm is not on plane (and it isn't given any #3 angle to the left hand grip) assuming the club lies full length on the inclined plane per 1-L, the left arm and club will not lay on the inclined plane together at Address, Impact or interestingly at Top.
DTL the geometrically correct flat left wrist when cocked and at Top will lie flat to the inclined plane which runs from ball to the #3pp and show a slight bend visually . The left arm will not lie on the inclined plane. The Inclined Plane is "sandwiched" by the Flying Wedges at Top . The photos in the book show this, see photo 10-6-B #2 Turned Shoulder Plane.
From DTL in Finish Swivel you should see a flat right , bent left exiting on the other side of the body. The bent right does release but adds no power. Its akin to the hand conditions at Adjusted , bent left , flat right as opposed to Impact Hands , flat left , bent right. The flat right now lays flat to plane. If this is contrary to the teachings of other TGM instructors so be it. But believe me this is the correct geometry per Homer and as Lynn teaches it ..... I had lengthy video tape of this lesson but lost it when my camera went missing.
Your flail will love these left wrist conditions believe me. "Rolling the flat left wrist"
still rules but you need to understand what a Flat Left Wrist looks like , visually , when cocked or re cocked and in the absence of horizontal left wrist motion. Its not visually flat. And at Finish Swivel the hands are no longer in their Impact Hands condition ( flat left bent right. )
My lesson with Lynn that day was primarily about freeing up my flail. He had diagnosed blocks .. a visually flat or even arched left wrist through Finish Swivel . Undesired Horizontal left hand motion! A block to my free flowing flail. Later at lunch he came back to the table with a photo from a golf magazine showing a pro at Top , left hand flat to plane and slightly bent ( geometrically Flat if you will) left wrist . "This is what I teach ! " said Mr Blake for emphasis .
Adjusted Address : bent left , flat right . Impact hands (as formed in startup): flat left , bent right . Top : flat left , bent right (but the cocked flat left will show a slight bend visually). Impact : flat left , bent right . Follow Through , Both Arms Straight : flat left , bent right . (Impact hands) Finish Swivel: bent left , flat right (adjusted address hands but with the left hand cocked implying more bend visually) . Its this last wrist condition that I see on Pro's , over and over again. Its often said to be ugly but IMO only to the untrained eye.
Geometrically correct and free wheeling giving you Alignments and Motion combined, each promoting the other. Homer and McDonald/Melhourne if you will . Or Lynn Blake Golf. A+M = LBG
Originally Posted by Yoda
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However, programming correctly in this area requires that you know exactly what you are trying to achieve and how it looks. There is a gross misconception here -- striving to retain a visually Flat Left Wrist when the Left Wrist Re-Cocks On Plane during the Finish -- that really hurts a lot of players.
Remember, the Left Wristcock is a Vertical Motion, even when executed on an Inclined Plane. This is the same Motion the Left Wrist makes when hammering a nail, and the Cocked Left Wrist should look identical in both cases. And any degree of Left Wrist Turn when the Grip is taken (in Impact Fix) must be retained as Left Wrist Bend when the Wrist is Cocked. This is true wherever the Cocking takes place -- during the Backstroke Cocking or during the Finish Re-Cocking. In other words, the key thing is that the Left Arm and Club remain in the same Vertical Plane, the Plane of the Left Wristcock Motion, i.e., the Plane of the Left Arm Flying Wedge. Only in this manner can the Left Arm and Clubshaft remain In Line and the Stroke have true Rhythm (6-B-3-0).
In this circumstance, then, attempting to maintain a visually Flat Left Wrist during the Re-Cocking will actually result in an Arched Left Wrist. This Horizontal Grip Motion (4-0) puts the Clubshaft out of the Vertical Plane of the Left Arm and thereby disrupts the Left Arm Flying Wedge. In other words, you are trying to make the Club do something is simply does not want to do.
It's always interesting to read your comments to the old Yoda posts. Then we get two for one.
Thanks Air. Just my interpretation of things , I do make mistakes , omissions and as such Im open to further discussion. Im here to learn.... compression.
IMO Alignments and Motion are linked. Geometrically correct Alignments facilitate proper Motion and proper Motion can create geometrically correct Alignments. The latter is the reason good golfers often demonstrate correct Alignments without any knowledge of them. The bent left/ flat right in finish swivel for instance.
I know this contrary to what some GSED's have said in the past but its not contrary to Homer or Lynn Blake. I say this with nothing but respect for those GSEDs ... Homers stuff was confusing to say the least.
To attempt to roll a visually flat left wrist through finish swivel is to ruin the correct Alignment. You have introduced Horizontal Motion (arching the left wrist to visually flat) to the left hand motion , a no no.
How could all these guys below , pro's with wonderful motion have it wrong? Answer: They don't!
Im not proposing Throw away or actively unbending the right hand or anything like that. Im merely clarifying what Flat means in a geometrical sense. Geometrically Flat vs visually Flat .. they are not one and the same. And the contribution to the look of the hands while going from Impact Hands to Adjusted Hands in Finish Swivel. Throwaway is still bad, very bad but some advanced golfers get stuck with this " what is flat " thing conceptually , get it wrong (attempt visually flat everywhere in the swing) and in so doing mess up their alignments , their flail and their motion.
Not saying you can't play with a frozen bent right/flat left set of hands throughout the entire swing. You could , but whats advantage when the cost is a free flowing flail? Put another way ... learning to release is important in terms of power transfer. It can be effortless and more powerful. Thats what I found with Yodas help. Let er go.
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