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Old 05-17-2012, 06:10 AM
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Confusion
There's learning/knowing

There's learning and knowing how to do what you have learned.

There's confusion when the learning part and doing part don't coincide.

There's also something called Paralysis Through Analysis...

Some need a stricter practice regime I guess - or just blame it on age and lack of talent.

Or just continue to play on the level you have reached and try to be happy never the less.

Or ...

On an other note:

If there is a tendency to hit at the ball instead of swinging thru the ball - like hackers tend to do, does that accelerate the hand speed towards impact and distroy rhythm, the endless belt effect/the flail and what not..?
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There's learning/knowing

There's learning and knowing how to do what you have learned.

There's confusion when the learning part and doing part don't coincide.

There's also something called Paralysis Through Analysis...

Some need a stricter practice regime I guess - or just blame it on age and lack of talent.

Or just continue to play on the level you have reached and try to be happy never the less.

Or ...

On an other note:

If there is a tendency to hit at the ball instead of swinging thru the ball - like hackers tend to do, does that accelerate the hand speed towards impact and distroy rhythm, the endless belt effect/the flail and what not..?
Air, let us know what happens when you try some of this stuff in print or in video, ok?


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Interesting point, may we discuss this?
Originally Posted by Etzwane
I've been impressed by golfgnome's practice swing over the ball in a couple of the videos here, he said he was monitoring Hinge Action. I still have to work on incorporating that to my routine but when I'm feel "off" on the course I do a couple of short swings monitoring the Hinge Action and in general the next stroke is much better. So maybe you could try to watch the arm (Hinge Action) rather than the club face ?
I lay down two orange plastic rods as extensions of the Baseline of the Plane and EA/RFT at about a 35 degree or 40 degree angle covering the club head Path, I think this is the Angle of Approach. I then waggle emphasizing the club face. I waggle from Impact Fix and it feels very inside compared to Tracing which is a Swingers technique as you know.

The Swinger's Tracing feels like I am throwing my # 3 PP over my shoulder and a slight tug with a stationary head explodes the ball about a club further though I do not have a lot of confidence as to where the ball would go.

On the course, as a hitter, I just waggle the club face over the ball from Impact Fix and as long as my head is stationary, the ball performs as expected, either straight, fade or draw and some trajector modifications which are exciting. My hits yesterday were very heavy and deep and my question will be about accurate distances off grass usually. Any other insights are appreciated.
Feedback helps us know where you are or are not. Give us a report on what is working and how, cause and effects.

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Old 05-17-2012, 01:26 PM
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Air, let us know what happens when you try some of this stuff in print or in video, ok?




Feedback helps us know where you are or are not. Give us a report on what is working and how, cause and effects.

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I'm not so systematic, so I will have to get back to this to see what works and not works. By the way I actually know a lot about what doesn't work even though it should have worked (better). I guess I'm not doing it right...

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“The shaft must start its journey on the plane of its address angle
of inclination.” Homer Kelley

We all need to remember that golf is a game with many different
games. Putting, pitching, fullswing, bunker play, etc....are all games
within the game of golf. It is impossible to balance all these games
without understanding how and how much is needed for
improvement.

“I am not disappointed when I miss a putt, I’m disappointed when I
miss-hit a putt.”

Just understand that a problem in set-up sets off a chain reaction of
compensations. By the same token, a proper set-up creates a chain
reaction of positive reactions in the golfswing.

Originally Posted by drewitgolf :

I am flying blind here. Not knowing your unique situation and the root causes without seeing your motion, I will make some general comments regarding Zone One. Your issues may not be in Zone One, but I’ll take that chance.

After you Start Down with a Slide with a Delayed Turn to create some Axis Tilt, incorporate the following… I have been using this drill with my students for quite sometime with great success.

Originally Posted by kmmcnabb
"You take your stance at the with your driver. Then take the driver and place it across your shoulders with the grip toward the target flush with your left shoulder and the head out the back (about two feet sticking out the back). Then you backswing to the top and on the downswing, try to hit the ball with the head of the driver (which you can't of course). This will give you immediate feel of getting the right shoulder down on plane. If you have not been doing this then it will feel quite different.

This single drill got me to focus on my right shoulder and I can now feel immediately when I am not down on plane with my right shoulder. I took film after this drill and the difference is quite startling."


Start Down with a Slide of your Hips with a DELAYED Turn and create some Axis Tilt so you can get your Right Shoulder moving down Plane (all of this around a Stationary Head). Learn to swing the Hands not the Clubhead. Drag the butt of the club toward the base of your Plane Line and feel the Uncocking and Rolling of the Flat Left Wrist.

Your hands will communicate all that is going on. The problem is most golfers are not listening. When Mr. Kelley wrote the current Chapter 5 (first appeared in the 4th edition I believe) it summarized the book in "a nut-shell" . SWING THE HANDS, MONITOR THE HANDS, Mr. Kelley wrote in capital letter. Nine times out of ten, your swing falls apart because you are not monitoring your hands, you are monitoring the Clubface. What they are telling you falls on deaf ears.

You are Over-loading (we'll save this one for another time), Round-housing, off Plane...The hands will communicate all of this if you will only pay attention. They, pressure points 1,2,3 located in the hands, are always trying to communicate, along with their distant cousin, the #4 Pressure Point. That is where your precision is if you use them; recognizing and reconcilling minor differences. The first step is to listen even if you don't speak the language yet.
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Old 05-18-2012, 03:06 AM
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