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Old 05-27-2010, 08:55 AM
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Pics 7&8 illustrate simultaneous Release - Hitting. Pic #10 in the down the line sequence shows his Angled Hinge result.


Brrrrrrrrrrrk. NO way is is Johnny Miller a Hitter . . . That's how the club works when you come close to swinging on the hands only plane . . . where's the right forearms support . . . you've lost your mind. That hinging action ain't coming from no drive loading . . . see frame 1, 9 and 8 . . . then read 2-J-3 . . . arc of approach procedure here JuneBug. Plus look at frame 5 . . . loading the entire primary lever? I ain't seeing it.
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:22 AM
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Johnny Miller is almost Textbook 12-1-0.

The only Differences are that he doesn't use a Right Anchor, he uses an Elbow Plane and he Double Shifts his Plane Angle and he overtravels his Backstroke. His Right Elbow is slightly out of alignment at the End of the Backswing but by Frame #7 he's put back together. That's probably remnants from learning how to Swing as a kid.

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Old 05-27-2010, 09:40 AM
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Brrrrrrrrrrrk. NO way is is Johnny Miller a Hitter . . . That's how the club works when you come close to swinging on the hands only plane . . . where's the right forearms support . . . you've lost your mind. That hinging action ain't coming from no drive loading . . . see frame 1, 9 and 8 . . . then read 2-J-3 . . . arc of approach procedure here JuneBug. Plus look at frame 5 . . . loading the entire primary lever? I ain't seeing it.

We may never know, its really hard to tell with some guys, most guys. But frame 6 would be a nice Hitters Top. You could Drive from there pretty easily.

You can Hit and use the Arc of Approach! The Angle of Approach doesnt define Hitting, its just an option available to Hitters who would prefer to Thrust it straight line (to their eye), cover the Plane Line, Steer....... albeit with a few necessary adjustments to Plane Angle (eye high, "nearly vertical") and Plane Line (10-5-E out to right field). Miller can turn, so his left shoulder is pulling the clubhead back inside along the Arc to my eye. Probably to his eye too. Curved Blur.

As an aside, only a Hitter, Drive Loader would suggest that you could start your swing from Top, no backstroke. A hitter or a Johnny Miller that is. They're both kinda out there, eh Ted?

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Old 05-27-2010, 10:04 AM
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We may never know, its really hard to tell with some guys, most guys. But frame 6 would be a nice Hitters Top. You could Drive from there pretty easily.

You can Hit and use the Arc of Approach! The Angle of Approach doesnt define Hitting, its just an option available to Hitters who would prefer to Thrust it straight line (to their eye), cover the Plane Line, Steer....... albeit with a few necessary adjustments to Plane Angle (eye high, "nearly vertical") and Plane Line (10-5-E out to right field). Miller can turn, so his left shoulder is pulling the clubhead back inside along the Arc to my eye. Probably to his eye too. Curved Blur.

As an aside, only a Hitter, Drive Loader would suggest that you could start your swing from Top, no backstroke. A hitter or a Johnny Miller that is. They're both kinda out there, eh Ted?
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Johnny Miller is almost Textbook 12-1-0.

The only Differences are that he doesn't use a Right Anchor, he uses an Elbow Plane and he Double Shifts his Plane Angle and he overtravels his Backstroke. His Right Elbow is slightly out of alignment at the End of the Backswing but by Frame #7 he's put back together. That's probably remnants from learning how to Swing as a kid.
His right eblow is "out of alignment" BECAUSE IT'S SUPPORTING THE LOADING OF THE SECONDARY LEVER ASSEMBLY . . . .

Here's you a hitter with standard knee action loading the PRIMARY lever . . .

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Homer didnt recommend End for Drive Loaders, didnt like Draggin then Driving at all but that doesnt mean they dont exist in the wild does it? Compensations do happen , especially when a young hitter type reads swing centric golf magazines from an early age.

Im on the fence about Miller being a Hitter. Who knows? The straight on photos 6,7,8,9,10 said Thrust to me when I was looking at them. Like maybe he is pushing on the aft of the shaft and the Hands are coming off the Inclined Plane early.

Now Seve.............he discussed right arm participation in his book, didnt he? Going from memory here. Gotta dig that up and copy it for you guys. That would be a shocker!

Mind you Im seeing Hitters where ever I look these days.......kids, women , hockey slap shots...........


PS I love the way Miller is backing into that shot there.........the one with Seve looking on. Beautiful. Slide with a Delayed Turn.

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Old 05-27-2010, 09:15 PM
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I'm willing to give Johnny Miller "Switter" status.
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Old 05-27-2010, 10:42 PM
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That first Getty image..........its amazing. Maybe his left knee is a little weird by modern standards but his Hips are Sliding and
his Hip Turn is Delayed!!!!!!! He's leaning into that shot.

Second picture........he's cleared the Right Hip there pretty nicely hasnt he?

Gents we're looking at both of Homers "clear the right hip" recommendations from 12-3 here. Going back and going down.

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That first Getty image..........its amazing. Maybe his left knee is a little weird by modern standards but his Hips are Sliding and
his Hip Turn is Delayed!!!!!!! He's leaning into that shot.

Second picture........he's cleared the Right Hip there pretty nicely hasnt he?

Gents we're looking at both of Homers "clear the right hip" recommendations from 12-3 here. Going back and going down.
Dang! What happened to the pics??? that stinks . . . does getty take 'em down or something. Boooooooooooooooo.
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Uh oh. But they still had the watermark! It's like free advertising for them.
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