I've been lurking the Lynne Blake forums for a while, and I'm looking for advice on my swing. Now, I'm not a golfer, I'm a tennis player, but I've been working at trying to understand a bit of TGM by reading Richie3Jack's golf blog, Slicefixer's Texarkana, Lag Erickson/ABS forums, and these forums. I think I'm trying to emulate the Lynne Blake swinger's pattern, but I feel that I don't have that horizontal hinge/end swivel going on. I feel like one of my main problems is not getting to the left pivot point which causes a spin-out. I'm confused about the transition move and how to clear that left side. I don't know how to shallow my plane on the downswing. I've included links of a DTL and Face on view of my swing taken today, as well as some stills. As you can see, the impact still is atrocious, just absolutely grotesque. Any help or insight is appreciated.
Welcome to LBG. You are far too hard on yourself, you have a very nice motion!
I think you have also done a good job of picking out a piece that needs a little work. Do you have the book, The Golfing Machine?
You need to work a little Hula-Hula. Your hips bump at the very start of the downstroke, while EVERYTHING above your hips stays back. Currently, your head and shoulders are starting forward first. You don't have to swing like Ben Hogan, but he does a wonderful tutorial on this principle.
That would be a good place to start.
Kevin
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Welcome to LBG. You are far too hard on yourself, you have a very nice motion!
I think you have also done a good job of picking out a piece that needs a little work. Do you have the book, The Golfing Machine?
You need to work a little Hula-Hula. Your hips bump at the very start of the downstroke, while EVERYTHING above your hips stays back. Currently, your head and shoulders are starting forward first. You don't have to swing like Ben Hogan, but he does a wonderful tutorial on this principle.
That would be a good place to start.
Kevin
Kevin,
Thanks for the insight. I can envision that movement, but it will be awhile before I can "program" and implement it. I will make tons of mirror swings trying to get comfortable with that motion. The link you provided is extremely helpful, Hogan makes it look so easy. I'm also going to be on the lookout for a copy of The Golfing Machine, as I think it would be great learning tool. I've noticed you guys often link the section of TGM relevant to the discussion in threads, so it would indeed be nice to have a copy. Thanks again,
I kinda like (what looks like) the angled hinge you have going there. It is rare to see that much right elbow past impact! My guess is that you do not see the left side of the course/range that much. What do you not like?
Thanks for the advice guys. Kevcarter, the link of Hogan's downswing/transition move is great. I'll be making mirror swings trying to emulate that action. I'll also make sure to check out Yoda's videos, and work on obtaining a copy of TGM. Thanks again
Homer was a tennis player as well. Ive always thought his Right Arm Flying Wedge , his Frozen Right Wrist, the Bat Minor Basic Stroke etc reminded my of tennis, not that I know too much about tennis. Using the right side, freezing the right wrist was far from normal when he first published. Still is maybe even after all these years, despite the fact he had it right to my mind. In that way Id say TGM is a good fit for a tennis player taking up golf, be you a Hitter or a Swinger.
You have a lot of great stuff going on there. Forget about positions and stick with motion and alignments ............thats how those positions were achieved by the pro's in the first place. And dont worry about shallowing out your plane around here..........though some have a preference for the Elbow Plane there are options and to each his own.
If I may, Id suggest taking a look at "Extensor Action" . Also research how its possible , indeed ideal to cock the left wrist with Right Elbow bending and the right wrist held frozen in its impact fix degree of bend. So just the Left Wrist cocks, not the Right. It wont be easy but if you have the well trained Right Forearm Flying Wedge like I think you do, it'll seem familiar to you and it'll be something you will never give up once you get it down. The golf swing only appears to be rubber wristed, so dont entertain any actual rubber wristed techniques. Keep your right wrist tennis like frozen, your grip firm, you'll have longer lever that way. From Left Shoulder to Ball instead of Left Wrist to Ball. On film it'll look otherwise, but the ball will know the difference.
Once last little thing. Try little chips where you get a "Both ARms Straight" or "Follow Through" position when the club shaft is about 45 degrees to the ground or so. This will mean that the Left Arm is straight and the Right Arm bent at Impact. There is a little magic to be had compression wise when you get it right. This is the proper Orbit being completed. When you get both those arms straight, you'll start to feel like you're just nutting these little shots right on the sweetspot. Something you'll want to take to the rest of your shots. The left arm is like a piece of string but you have to stretch it taught with the Right side or/and Centrifugal Force. "Extensor Action", its weird but wonderful and it'll allow you to feel a lot of TGM things suddenly turn on, like the Left Wrist getting cocked by the Right Elbow for instance.
Lately I've been trying to use extensor action at address and during the takeaway as the tugging sensation helps me feel tight and stable during the backswing. I may lose this extensor action at the start of the downswing, not really sure though as I haven't thought about it during the downswing. I'll definitely try the chipping drill you recommended with the Both Arms Straight" or "Follow Through" position.
BerntR,
My ballstriking is fairly inconsistent as far as contact, but all of my misses are short/right with a slight fade or slice. This is probably an unfair judgment though because I actually haven't played a round of golf in like a year. Last week I took golf up again and practiced about 3 times on the range/pitching green. I pretty much quit with so much tennis and school going on, but was lured back after watching the Accenture on T.V. I also want to note that I read forums/literature on TGM and ABS and practice on the range/practice green way more than I actually play. That's bad, but I usually don't have the time to devote to a round, and don't really know anyone that plays golf at all.
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