Daryl, don't take this the wrong way....but have you lost your job recently??? You got alot of time on your hands!!!
Really like what you been doing recently - hope that you still find time for work!! Big thanks for your effort!!
Re. Hogan's reported ball position comments...I have heard others use that statement to support the fact that Hogan was describing a forward ball position for driver...ie. hitting up on it... seems unlikely to be correct to say 3 inches forward of low point for driver??
Hogan thought Low Point was the Center of his Head.
I have tons of time. Its the Economy. Sales are down. My company is weathering it well though, I must admit. But unless we're really busy, I basically have NOTHING to do except sign checks and say hello to everyone and take people out to lunch. It's tough, I know. It will be like this for another year. I'm telling everyone to just relax and take it easy and enjoy life while they can. So I am too. So, I come into the office around 10:00 am and normally leave by 1:00 pm. Then, I wait for my wife to make dinner or we'll go out or something. I'm going to miss it.
Oh, and I stopped reading the papers and watching the news. It was so depressing.
My driver was always difficult to hit. At Cuscowilla I began to see the light and with further help from Jeff Hull I am doing well with it. It was always easier to hit irons. My turn was adequate for irons but not the driver. This month it seemed to click. Need more turn with driver. I came out of the Doyle tree with the deep elbow and foward leaning club. Made driver harder to hit. This post brings it all together. Now I will think more about where to put low point in rough around green, with driver etc.. Gives me more tools to work with and a better understanding Thanks
My driver was always difficult to hit. At Cuscowilla I began to see the light and with further help from Jeff Hull I am doing well with it. It was always easier to hit irons. My turn was adequate for irons but not the driver. This month it seemed to click. Need more turn with driver. I came out of the Doyle tree with the deep elbow and foward leaning club. Made driver harder to hit. This post brings it all together. Now I will think more about where to put low point in rough around green, with driver etc.. Gives me more tools to work with and a better understanding Thanks
Hmm? Cuscowilla. Great facility and Golf Course. It looked like a lot of fun. Aren't those Australians fun. TGM instruction was represented from two separate Continents. Unfortunately, I couldn't schedule it. You should talk to Yoda because I think he gives a guarantee. I could be wrong. Tell him that you wanted a lesson on all of the clubs, even the ones that are hard to hit. It's worth a try. See what he says.
I think that Homer Looks at Low-Point as having a fixed relationship with the body, such as at the Left Shoulder and of course, I agree. On the other hand, he knew that we can control a clean pick off with any club using extensor action at impact fix to control divot depth. But he was also keenly aware of the divergence of the plane line and arch of approach. As the ball is moved back in the stance that divergence increases. So, opening and closing the plane line in relation to the stance line ,,etc, etc.
But I'm willing to experiment. Just to understand.
I too, use the Doyle pre-shot. Toe on the line, Step across the line, Balance, etc. I'd like to step 3" across just one time to hear him react.
"The back of the ball shall be even with 3 inches forward of the lowest point in your arc..."
Meaning, with Both arms straight = 3" ahead of Center of your Head to the back of the ball. At about the Left Ear for every shot but change your stance width.
The above procedure is not the same distance back of low point for every club. The Exact distance from low point will change per club. Longer Clubs farther back, shorter clubs closer. It makes a lot of sense.
Glad to read your posts that followed this one. For a second there, I thought you were defining low point as under the center of the head.
But to clarify, when the fella on the tape quoted Hogan as saying "The back of the ball shall be 3 inches forward of the lowest point in the arc....", Im thinking by "back of the ball" he meant the side of the ball you make contact with and by " 3 inches forward of ....." he means 3 inches before the low point. Otherwise the geometry seems way off to me.
Glad to read your posts that followed this one. For a second there, I thought you were defining low point as under the center of the head.
But to clarify, when the fella on the tape quoted Hogan as saying "The back of the ball shall be 3 inches forward of the lowest point in the arc....", Im thinking by "back of the ball" he meant the side of the ball you make contact with and by " 3 inches forward of ....." he means 3 inches before the low point. Otherwise the geometry seems way off to me.
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Hey man, I agree with what you're saying. But why didn't he just say "Play the Back of the Ball Three inches behind Low-Point".
In Five Lessons, he said:
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There is another basic virtue and value in this method we have presented: the golfer has to learn only one swing. HE USES THE SAME FUNDAMENTAL SWING FOR EVERY SHOT HE PLAYS. On all standard shots the ball should be spotted in the same position relative to the left foot. (I spot it a half inch to an inch inside the left heel, toward the right foot.) You can, to be sure, play the ball a shade farther forward or back-it varies from individual to individual, depending on the spot that is the lowest point in his swing. In any event, the relative position of the left foot and the ball remains constant. When you narrow the width of the stance to accommodate the shorter shafts of the irons, you do this by moving the right foot progressively closer to the left foot and toward the ball.
He's yankin our chains. Does the Ball Position in post #1 look like 1/2" to the right of his left heel? Or 3" back? My Full Scale picture of him puts the ball 6 1/2" behind Low Point. The Picture in Post #1 has the Ball in-line with his Right Ear.
What does the following Picture tell ya? BH using a Driver.
I cant imagine Hogan of all people saying it like it aint , but he did. In regard to ball placement anyways. Knowingly or not.
Hey D can your Commodore 64 measure that divot in the second photo? According to my calculations it should be exactly 6" long. Somebody check my addition please.
I cant imagine Hogan of all people saying it like it aint , but he did. In regard to ball placement anyways. Knowingly or not.
Hey D can your Commodore 64 measure that divot in the second photo? According to my calculations it should be exactly 6" long. Somebody check my addition please.
And they're deep too!
Commodore 64 got a big upgrade. I'm now running a x286 with pcdos. I'm thinking about getting a color monitor but I can't find a video card for the thing.
You got alot of time on your hands!!!
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