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Old 05-23-2007, 08:58 PM
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Savin Time With Cap Locks.....
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Dude- your cap lock is on

AN "A" FOR OBSERVATION. I DON'T GIVE OUT "A"s WITHOUT HIGH MERIT.
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:08 PM
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Homer Said It Was Simple...
Detractors---and there have been many---condemn the system as hopelessly complex and impossible to put into practical use. A. J. Tomasello is one of the very few who have been able to break down the intimidating array of physical laws into a few basic movements that, far from being impossible, can leave a student asking “Can the golf swing really be this simple?" Tomasello conveys Kelley’s message with a spryness and energy more often found in a college sophomore than a senior citizen. And what a golf swing he has himself.

Golf Illustrated July 1991
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As I have posted too many times- my issue is not with Tom. I have no problem with the stroke pattern TT developed and teaches. But to call it the truth in relationship to the other stroke patterns Homer Kelley presents among the thousands of ways components can be developed is a bit narcissist. If you want TGM to be one way, your way- and without question called The Truth – you disregard the essence of Homer’s Book.
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:19 PM
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The Truth
THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL.......

SURE THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF SWINGING A GOLF CLUB.....HOWEVER, IN TOMASELLO'S WORDS HE TAUGHT "....the most EFFICIENT, centrifugal force golf swing." NOT THE ONLY SWING...

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SURE THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF SWINGING A GOLF CLUB.....HOWEVER, IN TOMASELLO'S WORDS HE TAUGHT "....the most EFFICIENT, centrifugal force golf swing." NOT THE ONLY SWING...

DG
Well put DG.
I think you and 6B make some very good points.
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If the stroke is a 3 Barrel Hit pattern then Momentum Transfer is not used. A CF swinger would. They will need a start down that is from the bottom up- a linear pulling on the shaft.
Would it be correct to say this start down can occur through maintaining the correct feel in the hands and making the brain aware of the correct plane line that must be traced? I'll have to go back and study the training of zone 1 (I know it is mentioned). But part of me (now) says you don't have to train your body to make the movements to pick up your keys or to reach for a cup of coffee. Thanks.
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Old 05-24-2007, 11:12 AM
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Would it be correct to say this start down can occur through maintaining the correct feel in the hands and making the brain aware of the correct plane line that must be traced? I'll have to go back and study the training of zone 1 (I know it is mentioned). But part of me (now) says you don't have to train your body to make the movements to pick up your keys or to reach for a cup of coffee. Thanks.
I'm heading to work- I'll get back to you on a few points. I will start a new thread since this is the Tomasello Tape thread.

The difference between reaching for keys or coffee and the movement of the body in a G.O.L.F. stroke is that reaching is not an athletic move.
More later.
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Old 05-24-2007, 11:26 AM
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Old 05-25-2007, 08:56 AM
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Would it be correct to say this start down can occur through maintaining the correct feel in the hands and making the brain aware of the correct plane line that must be traced? I'll have to go back and study the training of zone 1 (I know it is mentioned). But part of me (now) says you don't have to train your body to make the movements to pick up your keys or to reach for a cup of coffee. Thanks.

You certainly did have to train your body to pick up your keys or reach for a cup. It was just so long ago youve forgotten. Now its instinctive and you reinforce it everyday.

Watch a new baby with its rattle and toys they are training their body, hands, arms, fingers.

I know a guy who suffered a stroke and he had to retrain his body completely to do things we take for granted. One of the hardest things for him was learning to use a knife and fork again.

Unfortunately most of us were not introduced to golf at an early enough age to make the movements instinctive.
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Watch a new baby with its rattle and toys they are training their body, hands, arms, fingers.

I know a guy who suffered a stroke and he had to retrain his body completely to do things we take for granted. One of the hardest things for him was learning to use a knife and fork again.
Heck yes, (and more yes) I'd go right along with the need to educate, and continue to educate the hands, arms, and fingers. I just wonder if you completely and absolutely "get the body" with the hand education (talking of golf stroke only). I think this is what Tomasello is screaming.? Wouldn't other alternatives (no matter how small or slight) venture into the realm of pivot controlled hands?
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