I pull the club through impact, much like throwing a frisbee, but I never felt like a true swinger. At 6'3 230 lbs, I look more physically like a hitter. Flexible enough to have high hands at the top, full turn, and have a very (very) inactive right arm in my downswing.
My question: I have a powerful feel with PP#3. I preach to my friends the importance of PP#3 with a bent right wrist. I call it my ping pong paddle pressure point. Oh yes, the question: Am I fooling myself in concentrating on swing applications with such powerful PP#3 applied to the ball?
Yoda wrote:
armourall2 wrote:
Yoda,
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At address, Larry Nelson -- "Hogan with a smile" -- has always set up with his Hands in their Impact Location and Alignments.
Would that include an on-plane Right Forearm?
"You got it! Swingers Pull the Club down behind them just like it is a piece of string. They crank up the Gyroscope of the Circling Clubhead, keep their Right Arm passive, and then let Centrifugal Force do the rest of the work. Hitters start out Pulling, too, but once their Right Shoulder has supplied the initial Thrust, they start Pushing against the back of the Shaft -- just like it was an Axe Handle -- and they use their Active Right Arm and Elbow to Drive the Club through Impact. That's one reason, by the way, you like those very stiff Shafts. They're great to Push against."
So much to read, I'm trying to catch up.
So a hitter could use a pulling "rope pull" action to start the downswing? This is what I feel and used as a swing thought at first, when I start the swing. At what point, as with Larry Nelson, would the right shoulder take over? Would the hands be reaching the right thigh? Does Els do this too? He has a tremendous straight line to the ball with his right arm, some days I think he swings, other days he hits. The fact that he looks some smooth throws preception off.
I was afraid when I wrote that "the Hitter starts out pulling, too"that the action would be misinterpeted and, like Job of the Old Testament,"my fears have come to pass."
The Golf Stroke is always a Left Arm Stroke as long as the Left Shoulderserves as the Center of the Clubhead Arc. In that sense, both Hitters andSwingers must 'Pull' from the Top (8-6) of the Stroke. However, the Swinger'slong Backstroke typically goes to the End (10-21-C), and then he Pullsthe Club down like it was a piece of string trailing behind him. Then,having cranked up the Gyroscope of the orbiting Clubhead, he 'hangs on' asCentrifugal Force Powers the Club through Impact. The Hitter'sBackstroke, on the other hand, typically ends at the Top (10-21-A) whenhis Right Elbow has become completely Bent. Then, after the initial Downstroke ShoulderAcceleration (8-7), he accelerates the Club by Pushing against theClubshaft as if it was an Axe Handle.
At the Top then, the Hitter resists the Inertia of the moving Club (whichwants to continue On Plane Up, Back and In). This resistance to the ClubheadInertia causes the Lag Pressure to Load against the No. 3 Pressure Point and iscalled Drive Loading (10-19-A). Once the Right Shoulder has provided theinitial Downstroke Acceleration (2-M-4), the Hitter begins his Right Arm Pushing,Driving Motion through Impact. The Swinger, on the other hand, with hislonger End Backstroke, allows the Club to come to rest against the firstknuckle of the Right Hand. He then Loads the Lag Pressure against thatPoint by Pulling the Club down lengthwise -- Drag Loading (10-19-C).
At the Top then, the Hitter has not changed in the slightest his ImpactFix alignments, i.e., Left Wrist Flat and Right Wrist Bent. Therefore, theClubshaft has maintained its position against the No. 3 Pressure Point, and theShaft is still pointing skyward. The Swinger, on the other hand, Turns(4-C-2) his Left Hand against the Plane in the Backstroke (Standard Left WristAction of 10-18-A). He typically goes to parallel (and perhaps beyond),and this has caused the Clubshaft to Load down against the first knuckle of theRight Hand. This Action gives the Swinger the Feel of having Rotated the LeftWrist and Lag Pressure Point one-quarter Turn in the Backstroke.
The Hitter, on the other hand, feels no such Rotation. Instead, he sensesHomer's "Hitter's Guiding Principle:"
"At the Top, you should feel that absolutely nothing has changed inyour Impact Fix Wrist alignments and that you are in perfect postion to Slapthe Ball with the palm of your Right Hand."
The Swinger, having Rotated his Left Wrist in the Backstroke, then maintainsthat position through the Start Down, Downstroke and Release. This is the Swinger's'Left Hand Karate Chop' to the Ball. The Action of this Left Hand 'PalmDown' to the Plane' surface actually overrides the 'natural action' ofthe Hitter's constant On Plane Rolling from the Top (caused by theTurning of the Body and the Swinging of the Arms and Hands). The Swinger'sRotation must ultimately be reversed -- this is the function of the Swivel-- in order to restore the Impact Fix alignments.
The Hitter needs no such Swivel because his Left Hand has been Closing from thetime it left the Top in Start Down. From Release, he simply Drives his RightArm through Impact in a Straight Line Motion.
If you are thinking that there is a lot more going on with Swinging thanwith Hitting, you are right. If you are thinking that Hitting, oncemastered, can be the superior alternative, you may be right there, too.It's all about personal preference. I, for one, feel more far more incontrol and am decidedly more accurate Hitting. The reason is that youare never out of your Impact Fix Alignments. And as for Homer: "You'll all become Hitting Nuts."
Regarding Ernie Els, I have personally never seen him Hit. He Loads to Swing,and then he does.
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