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Old 01-01-1970, 12:00 AM
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Anyhow Martee...Do you know you need "DIFFERENT FEEL" for ALLclubs in the bag anyway because of the differences in the shaft frequency and balance point etc etc...

...of course....unless....you play with singlw freq. clubs..........

You see THIS whole clubs arguement is why IF YOUR WHOLE DEAL is reading out of the book, you will NEVER be as well versed as a person that has APPLIED the material to all levels of players....

The changes in clubs MATTER>figure it out.

 

Martee wrote:

Please don't mistake this as an attack, BUT frankly the response by Brian is useless to me in answering the mail.

First if I was able to understand the logic and thought process that allowed you to arrive at your conclusions, I wouldn't have asked the question.

Second, it is because of the above point I asked the question.

Basically a non-answer.

I contend, even though I think I understand what Yoda was saying that if a golfer is to have a single ball location then that golfer will have to either make compensations, be required to manipulate or adopt variations that are not optiminal (meaning compensations or manipulations) to a given stroke pattern. That is predicated on the concept that the best (poor choice of word) [Bold by Yoda -- See Reply Below.] golf swing is one that has the least compensations from the ideal swing pattern (and yes I believe Mr. Kelley was giving us choices that would allow us to minimize the compensations/manipulations in the golf swing).

1. Aiming point is not a requirement unless we are using a Snap Release (6-E-1).

2. The ball location changes is oppposite for Swinger than of Hitters (7-2).

3. Ball Location and Plane Angles are closely associated (7-6). As the Plane Angle Steepens, the Ball must be moved forward to control the Divot depth and Pick-off.

4. Ball Location determines the Angle of Approach (2-J-3) and Plane Angle determines the Angle of Attack (7-3).

I realize this isn't the best worded write up but the point I am trying to understand is a simple one (at least in my mind).

To have a single ball location, the golfer must compensate/manipulate to overcome what would be natural and based on equipment design. What is it that changes or is need adjustment to accomplish this? If in fact Aiming point is the key to the one ball position, then other than in a Snap Release, then haven't we added another factor or requirement to the golf swing that Mr. Kelley indicated was only needed for the Snap Release?



A very interesting, well-researched post, Martee. Truly worthy of ForumReaders' time and attention.

I congratulate you not because you express agreement with my reply toyour recent post -- I respect the same characteristics in opposing views --but because you use the Paragraph References in The Golfing Machine as scientificsupport (1-G) for your hypotheses and proof of your conclusions.This is exactly opposite the approach taken by certain others -- who, by theway, are legion in the Golf World -- who use only hyperbole and inuendo to'support' their merely 'my-way' personal opinions.

One clarifying point regarding your post. Item No. 1 should be corrected toread:

"The Aiming Point Concept (6-E-2) applies to all Golf Strokes,Hitting and Swinging, and from Drive to Putt."

And then, for amplification:

"Even with the correct Ball Location, Loaded Lag Pressure Thrust mustalways be directed to a particular point on the Delivery Line. And thus,while most often subconsciously applied, the Aiming of this Thrust can neverbe omitted."

Finally, regarding that word "best" that you caveated above (and thatI bolded for reader ease). Try 'simplest.' That is the goal of TheGolfing Machine: To reduce a fantastically complex Motion (1-0) to itssimplest possible terms. [Note: This is in wrenching contrast to the conventionalview of The Golfing Machine!] The reward for our disciplined,intelligently applied effort will be the greatest probability of repeating thatMotion on demand, with extreme Precision, and under the real-timepressure of competition.

In G.O.L.F., as in life, some things take longer to learn than others. Andthese are always...

The 'simple' things.

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