Confused about throw out action

[2mongoose]

6-B-3-0: Homer talks about throw out action "automatically aligns the Clubshaft and Clubhead for Horizontal Hinging." He later says "True "Throw Out" action holds the Clubface in Impact Fix alignment and automatically produces Angled Hinging."

So, do you monitor the clubface and execute horizontal hinging via the #3 PP only as you begin to stress the shaft?

Furthermore, if the laws of physics are the same for Joe Hacker and Tour Pro, how do we end up with different release types/points? If centrifugal force drove the power package to the same point, assuming an in-line condition, how are non-automatic release types not steering?

Thanks!

[Daryl]

6-B-3-0: Homer talks about throw out action "automatically aligns the Clubshaft and Clubhead for Horizontal Hinging." He later says "True "Throw Out" action holds the Clubface in Impact Fix alignment and automatically produces Angled Hinging."


Thanks!

You must be reading the 7th edition.

[2mongoose]

You must be reading the 7th edition.

Correct. Is this contradictory to previous editions or is this some of the purported non-Homer verbiage?

[Daryl]

Correct. Is this contradictory to previous editions or is this some of the purported non-Homer verbiage?

Well, I don't like to use those exact words. Yes; to all of the above. Don't tell anyone I told you.

[Daryl]

True Throwout aligns for Horizontal Hinging

Driveout aligns for Angled Hinging

[BerntR]

Hey Daryl,

Could you explain why Throwout aligns for Horizontal Hinging? I know it does, but I'm not sure if I understand why.

True Throwout aligns for Horizontal Hinging

Driveout aligns for Angled Hinging

[12 piece bucket]

6-B-3-0: Homer talks about throw out action "automatically aligns the Clubshaft and Clubhead for Horizontal Hinging." He later says "True "Throw Out" action holds the Clubface in Impact Fix alignment and automatically produces Angled Hinging."

So, do you monitor the clubface and execute horizontal hinging via the #3 PP only as you begin to stress the shaft?

Furthermore, if the laws of physics are the same for Joe Hacker and Tour Pro, how do we end up with different release types/points? If centrifugal force drove the power package to the same point, assuming an in-line condition, how are non-automatic release types not steering?

Thanks!

Interesting . . . where in the 7th does it say True Throw Out Action produces Angled Hinging? That would definitely be a mistake. . .

According to Mr. Kelley you monitor only CLUBHEAD alignments with the Right Hand . . . so you would monitor you Hinge Action via your Left Wrist. So basically to execute Horizontal Hinging you would be holding your Flat Left Wrist vertical to the ground.

I'm not sure if I'm following your Steering reference . . .

[2mongoose]

Interesting . . . where in the 7th does it say True Throw Out Action produces Angled Hinging? That would definitely be a mistake. . .

On page 73 of the 7th edition, 2nd paragraph.

So basically to execute Horizontal Hinging you would be holding your Flat Left Wrist vertical to the ground.

Bucket - When I use a swinging procedure I have a tendency to flatten my right wrist if I focus on getting the left wrist vertical to the plane. Besides acceleration issues, could this be a result of a lack of axis tilt?

I'm not sure if I'm following your Steering reference . .

Perhaps this is a different conversation onto itself, but if centrifugal throw out automatically aligns the clubshaft and head for horizontal hinging why do you need to manually trigger it (regarding release points and types)? This seems like a lot of lost power.

[3Putt]

Interesting . . . where in the 7th does it say True Throw Out Action produces Angled Hinging? That would definitely be a mistake. . .

On page 73 of the 7th edition, 2nd paragraph.

When researching this exact topic, I stumbled across this thread. It appears (to me anyway) that the discussion never reached a satisfying conclusion, so if I may be so bold as to re-open the discussion.

In 6-B-3-0 (7th ed) it says
...true Throw-out Action ...aligns Clubshaft and Clubface for Horizontal Hinging
...True "Throw Out" Action ...produces Angled Hinging
(I've been true to the capitalization, quotations, hyphens, etc)

I have been educated on this site that Mr Kelley was very precise in his communication and choice of words so I'm thinking that though the words (in bold) are the same, the meaning is different because of the capitalization and quotation marks.

Any opinions? If I need to correct my 7th edition, I'd appreciate the feedback,

Thanks
3putt

[KevCarter]

When researching this exact topic, I stumbled across this thread. It appears (to me anyway) that the discussion never reached a satisfying conclusion, so if I may be so bold as to re-open the discussion.

In 6-B-3-0 (7th ed) it says
...true Throw-out Action ...aligns Clubshaft and Clubface for Horizontal Hinging
...True "Throw Out" Action ...produces Angled Hinging
(I've been true to the capitalization, quotations, hyphens, etc)

I have been educated on this site that Mr Kelley was very precise in his communication and choice of words so I'm thinking that though the words (in bold) are the same, the meaning is different because of the capitalization and quotation marks.

Any opinions? If I need to correct my 7th edition, I'd appreciate the feedback,

Thanks
3putt

Good find. The 6th edition lists them differently in 6-B-3-0.

Throw Out Action = Horizontal Hinging

Drive Out Action = Angled Hinging

Differences in the lag-loading procedures.

Kevin