Hi Bucket, the pictures were wonderfull. This first one at the top was
really great. The left wrist looks straight without the cup in the left
wrist. In the Life Magazine article, August 8th 1955, Hogan mentioned that the angle was only 4 to 6 degrees and almost invisable to the naked eye
which maybe why the angle is hard to see. The article says that the move
was backward and inward. The picture does not really show the inward?
In the book, Afternoons with Mr. Hogan by Jody Vasquez, Hogan explained
that the left wrist was cupped because it was the only position the wrist
could assume based on the the position of the right knee. Hogan was
looking for a body in balance. Now to V.J.s center of gravidty being over
the piovt axis, at the top of the backswing, I can certainly see better
balance. I am trying to see if their is a relationship of the cupped left wrist, presented by Vasquez to the slanted right knee that V.J. presents with photos and text. What do you think.
Donn
Not sure there's a connection other than trying to get it hook proof. He set it up so he could swing HARD and not have the ball go left. His pivot set up having a low point that was consistently infront of the ball and not moving all over the place ala 1-L #1. Holla.
Mr. Hogan told me the Secret at a Waffle House in Nacogdoches, Tx. It's not mental. It's not the pivot. It's not the cupped wrist. It has to do with skattered covered chunked and collardided . . . and that's all I got to say about that . . . right now . . .
Mr. Hogan did work with a hand full of guys. John Schlee was one. He developed a system called Maximum Golf. He passed away a few years ago.
I think a couple of players that he may have worked with are John McHaffey, and Willie Wood. It would be interesting to hear form them. Of course, according to Jody Vasquez, what Mr. Hogan thought, or felt he did, and what he actually did... may have been a little different.
I love V.J.s book in regard to its theories about low point, center of gravity, axis of rotation, sequencing and the science behind it. The arguement for it describing the missing link in the Hogan secret is interesting but secondary in my opinion.
For me, V.J.s move is the most usable of all the secrets revealed to date. I've tried most of them, with the exception of the John Schlee "make your two arms one big arm" which never made it out of the airport I read the book in.
The Venturi photo tells me that he is familar with the "missing link" move. I'd be interested in his views and what Hogan might have said about it. Did you notice the caption below it where he says he "is giving Willie Mays a few pointers". This suggests to me that the move is high on his list of tips. Has anyone ever heard Venturi commenting on it in the past? You'd think he would unless he had good reason to not to.
The Venturi photo tells me that he is familar with the "missing link" move. I'd be interested in his views and what Hogan might have said about it. Did you notice the caption below it where he says he "is giving Willie Mays a few pointers". This suggests to me that the move is high on his list of tips. Has anyone ever heard Venturi commenting on it in the past? You'd think he would unless he had good reason to not to.
O.B.
I just ordered my copy of VJ's book today , so i haven't read it yet, but I have a feel about the move from the posts above.
I like the photo but I think you might be reading a little too much into it... The caption underneath is what any pro golfer would write if he was pretending to give a pro baseball guy some "advice"... and a stationary shot of transition from that angle suggests only a transition move...maybe baseball...maybe golf...maybe Hogan secret move... but probably just 2 sports stars who swing something in a similar manner having a laugh in front of the cameras...
Yes. You could be right. Venturi posing in a transtional move. But a nice one. Different. His center of balance, axis or rotation, low point all in compiance with the missing link. And all while he is still at the top. Like the secret, we'll never know I guess.
Enjoy the book, there is much more than we have discussed here.
Might someone please post the Mays / Hogan / Venturi pic(s) from this book?
I saw Hogan play about 15 times & his concentration and "management" was something to behold. His iron shots had a very distict sound similar to the loud crack of a rifle not a "pop" at all. He was an excellent putter, too. But his range work was absolutely unbeleivable...consistently flying golf balls into a dayum shag bag or hitting his shag caddie. It would an OSHA violation today!
Bh also not a total A**hole and had an affinity for Hollywood, movie, sport's stars. He shared his thoughts with allot of people. I'm convinced if BH said his cupped left wrist was his "secret" then he believed it to his very core. But even BH decsribed golf swing movements he "felt" he did that simply aren't supported by film. That's the fatal problem with this silly game.
Bucket et al......is the missing link move what actually stops the clubs backward movement? Do you have to be loose, loose,loose with the hands to really feel the rubber band stretch? Is this a fountain of youth move for the round belly set?
Just got the book and from what I can tell it zeros in on HULA-HULA 7-14 Hip Turn and 7-15 Hip Action
Also, the explanation of constant ball position and low point, combined with Hogan's missing piece, explains how he eliminated the left side of the course.
Combine this with Clampett's book and you can put together a pretty good pattern.
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