Bucket,
Please note Bagger's post #7 in this thread- he is blatantly recruiting on the site. Practically a declaration of war! PM me we're going to need to fortify. Man your battle stations!
David Williams wrote in The Science of the Golf Swing that Hogan was wrong to say to clear the hips.
They should be geared together.
Homer said that a car engine had rhythm because nothing moves haphazardly.
Thanks Denny
So what would be your definitive answer on this sequence. Or are you saying there isn't a sequence as such and the hip clears at the same time as the elbow comes through?
David Williams wrote in The Science of the Golf Swing that Hogan was wrong to say to clear the hips.
They should be geared together.
Homer said that a car engine had rhythm because nothing moves haphazardly.
I have also heard this explained in different ways.
1. In the Start Up-- as in Picture 9-1-4 and 9-2-4
2. In the Start Down-- as in Picture 9-1-4, 8-7, and 9-2-7 (In these pictures the Right Hip still appears to still be turned BACK(I have heard this described as "Cleared.")
3. In the Downstroke-- as in picture 9-2-8 ( I have heard this picture described as Clearing a way for the right elbow.
I'm pretty sure there is some information out there on how Mr. Kelley taught this to students.
Bucket,
Please note Bagger's post #7 in this thread- he is blatantly recruiting on the site. Practically a declaration of war! PM me we're going to need to fortify. Man your battle stations!
OK OK we'll whack the dude and all . . . but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't tell me you're back to watching Star Trek again??? Mike . . . I want you to go to your room . . . take off those silly pointed ears . . . stop painting all your inflatable dolls blue . . . stop putting the cat in the Vulcan Nerve Pinch. . . . AND TAKE YOUR MEDICINE.
You know what watching Dr. Spock does to you! It's gonna be just like that time you ate all those cheetoes and called me frantic because you had an orange ring around your . . .
As for Bagger . . . I learned this new thing with a veggie pealer . . . You are going to DIG THIS ONE my friend!!!
Bagger t-minus 3 days . . . call the wife and kids . . . somebody's coming to visit!!!!
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I have also heard this explained in different ways.
1. In the Start Up-- as in Picture 9-1-4 and 9-2-4
2. In the Start Down-- as in Picture 9-1-4, 8-7, and 9-2-7 (In these pictures the Right Hip still appears to still be turned BACK(I have heard this described as "Cleared.")
3. In the Downstroke-- as in picture 9-2-8 ( I have heard this picture described as Clearing a way for the right elbow.
I'm pretty sure there is some information out there on how Mr. Kelley taught this to students.
We should get some chimers on this one.
Mr. Greenjeans told me that the right hip is cleared on the down stroke WHILE IT IS STILL TURNED.
Since starting this thread I've begun to REALLY focus on hitting the back inside quadrant of the ball. I'm starting to find that the INTENT to do this at the top and start down is begining to transmit the message to the right hip to get out the way (without me consiously trying to do anything). I can feel the change in path (from before) and space for it being made.
Does this make sense?
I've just realised this might be what is meant by hand-controlled pivot - am I right? Is this more lightbulbs coming on?
The phrase 'Clearing the right hip' on the downswing always conjured up images for me of 'getting the right hip out of the way' (of the right elbow).
Then it was suggested to me by a highly respected member of the TGM community that it really meant 'the right elbow clearing the right hip' ie getting the right elbow past the right hip before the hip turns.
Seems to me to be a lot of difference there. Far be it for me to doubt him, but I still get the impression from other esteemed members of the community that my original thought was right....
So which is it? The right hip getting out of the way so the right elbow can pass, or the right elbow passing before the right hip turns to the ball?
How about moving the hips so you establish a straight line relationship to a straight line?
Since starting this thread I've begun to REALLY focus on hitting the back inside quadrant of the ball. I'm starting to find that the INTENT to do this at the top and start down is begining to transmit the message to the right hip to get out the way (without me consiously trying to do anything). I can feel the change in path (from before) and space for it being made.
Does this make sense?
I've just realised this might be what is meant by hand-controlled pivot - am I right? Is this more lightbulbs coming on?
I know this is an old thread but I just wanted you to know that this really helped me. I've never had to think about the startdown waggle (left hip bump), now I know why. My intent to hit the inside aft quadrant of the ball. YES!!!!!
O.k. So in the turn back the right hip moves enough to keep the right elbow in front rather than behind the right hip. Is that correct?
(I lent my book to a cohort and will not see it until tomorrow, hence the question)
Thanks.
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