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Old 02-21-2005, 10:38 PM
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Nope - when you close the stance(adjusted machine), you now have a plane line which is cross line to the target line. You also have a new outside aft quadrant, which you are going to hit with the clubface which, although square to the target line, is closed with respect to the new plane line.
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Old 03-07-2005, 05:23 AM
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I don't like his thread because it leads those astray....

Put simply. the angled hinge affects the loading of the right arm where it is a position to HIT at the top due to the influence created by the manditory alignments of the flying wedges. It is always a left arm stroke remember (1-F). The hinge action controls the alignments - it is the right arms job to trace the plane line and let the hinge action (controlling acc no.3)to do its thang.....the left arm is always swinging (1F) and it is always a left arm stroke

Thats why its left hand clubface right hand clubhead....

You cannot be in a position to hit with a horizontal hinge -its just not happen' - You are in a position to drag though
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Old 03-07-2005, 07:31 AM
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Matthew wrote,

"You cannot be in a position to hit with a horizontal hinge -its just not happen'
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Not according to Homer who said in 10-19-0 -

"HITTERS USING HORIZONTAL HINGING must consciously resist the tendency of Right Arm Paddlewheel Action toward Angled Hinging."
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Old 03-07-2005, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
Matthew wrote,

"You cannot be in a position to hit with a horizontal hinge -its just not happen'
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Not according to Homer who said in 10-19-0 -

"HITTERS USING HORIZONTAL HINGING must consciously resist the tendency of Right Arm Paddlewheel Action toward Angled Hinging."
Why load for swinging if your going to hit ? Its just nonsensical...it may be possible in slooow motion but you will never be a consistant machine.... plus angled hinging is probably the easiest to hinge action to master.....
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Old 03-07-2005, 08:49 AM
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Horizontal Hinge Hitting is for a Hitter who wants to truly draw the ball by hitting the inside of the ball, rather than lining up closed to the target and pull hooking it. Or any Hitter who wants to avoid the fade tendency of Angled Hinging.

Read Homer's own words from 10-19-0 - "Hinge Action does NOT differentiate Hitting and Swinging." Those caps are Homer's not mine. Do you believe that he would have said that were it "nonsensical"?
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Old 03-07-2005, 09:04 AM
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The ball goes from point A to point B and if you want a draw then swinging is your best option.....

It may not differentiate but it sure does have more than a passing influence......ans im sure Homer didn't like it much either.... he was just stating tht it is possible only in an awkward way (ch 13 - non interchangable components).....
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Old 03-07-2005, 09:26 AM
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Gentlemen,

Just a clarification. You don't 'load' to hinge. You load to drag or drive the clubhead. Hinging in itself has its own identity and should be kept separated from Lag Loading. Granted, the Lag Loading procedure will generally influence the hinging used, but you can execute any Hinge Action with any Lag Loading procedure with the inherent pitfalls if not properly compensated.

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Old 03-07-2005, 09:59 AM
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philly,

That's correct, but I knew what Matthew meant.
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Old 03-07-2005, 01:42 PM
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10-19-0
Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
Horizontal Hinge Hitting is for a Hitter who wants to truly draw the ball by hitting the inside of the ball, rather than lining up closed to the target and pull hooking it. Or any Hitter who wants to avoid the fade tendency of Angled Hinging.

Read Homer's own words from 10-19-0 - "Hinge Action does NOT differentiate Hitting and Swinging." Those caps are Homer's not mine. Do you believe that he would have said that were it "nonsensical"?
The next sentence in 10-19-0 states: "All are interchangeable-with reservations." He then warns hitters and swingers about the tendency to natrually revert back to angled and horizontal hinging, respectively. And says:

"Both procedures require skill in Clubface manipulation per 7-2."

So I read this to say, you can horizontal hinge AND hit, but it takes conscious clubface manipulation to do it successfully. The same applies to swingers using angled hinging.
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Old 03-08-2005, 11:43 AM
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Re: 10-19-0
Originally Posted by Trigolt
Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
Horizontal Hinge Hitting is for a Hitter who wants to truly draw the ball by hitting the inside of the ball, rather than lining up closed to the target and pull hooking it. Or any Hitter who wants to avoid the fade tendency of Angled Hinging.

Read Homer's own words from 10-19-0 - "Hinge Action does NOT differentiate Hitting and Swinging." Those caps are Homer's not mine. Do you believe that he would have said that were it "nonsensical"?
The next sentence in 10-19-0 states: "All are interchangeable-with reservations." He then warns hitters and swingers about the tendency to natrually revert back to angled and horizontal hinging, respectively. And says:

"Both procedures require skill in Clubface manipulation per 7-2."

So I read this to say, you can horizontal hinge AND hit, but it takes conscious clubface manipulation to do it successfully. The same applies to swingers using angled hinging.
I'm with you Trigolt.
The words that scream at me are 'maipulation' and 'with reservations.'
Homer used the word 'true' to describe 'true hitters' using angled hinging and ' true swingers' using horizontal hinging. Does that make a hitter using horizontal hinging a "false" hitter?
I just thought that I'd add a little TNT to the fire...
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