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Old 01-22-2006, 04:47 AM
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Just like to say I'm really greatful that John's Pattern is posted for all to see. What a fortunate bunch LBG members are!

Why use a Non-Auto Sweep Release, we one can use Auto Sweep? Have you ever looked into getting more of a Random Sweep / Snap Release for more Power, or would accuracy be sacrificed?

Also your Basic Plane Angle (component 5) is the Turned Shoulder Plane, but your Plane Angle Variation (component 6) is a Double Shift. Doesn't the Double Shift use an Elbow Plane though?

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John's Release and Plane Angle
Originally Posted by tongzilla
Just like to say I'm really greatful that John's Pattern is posted for all to see. What a fortunate bunch LBG members are!

Why use a Non-Auto Sweep Release, we one can use Auto Sweep? Have you ever looked into getting more of a Random Sweep / Snap Release for more Power, or would accuracy be sacrificed?


Also your Basic Plane Angle (component 5) is the Turned Shoulder Plane, but your Plane Angle Variation (component 6) is a Double Shift. Doesn't the Double Shift use an Elbow Plane though?

Thank you
John doesn't like the feel of the Snap Release. He likes the feel of very quiet hands/wrist. With that said we are gradualy working toward the Auto Sweep.

The Elbow Plane is used in the Double Shift Variation (Component #7), but it does not replace the Turned Shoulder Plane designation (Component #6). By definition, the Double Shift begins on the Elbow Plane; arrives at The Top on the Turned Shoulder Plane; and then returns to the Elbow Plane through Impact. Hence, the Turned Shoulder Plane Top of 10-6-B and the Double Shift Variation of 10-7-C.

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Old 01-22-2006, 02:10 PM
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John doesn't like the feel of the Snap Release. He likes the feel of very quiet hands/wrist. With that said we are gradualy working toward the Auto Sweep.

The Elbow Plane is used in the Double Shift Variation (Component #7), but it does not replace the Turned Shoulder Plane designation (Component #6). By definition, the Double Shift begins on the Elbow Plane; arrives at The Top on the Turned Shoulder Plane; and then returns to the Elbow Plane through Impact. Hence, the Turned Shoulder Plane Top of 10-6-B and the Double Shift Variation of 10-7-C.

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Ooops, I got the component numbers wrong.

Thanks for your answer Rob.
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Old 01-23-2006, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
Just like to say I'm really greatful that John's Pattern is posted for all to see. What a fortunate bunch LBG members are!

Why use a Non-Auto Sweep Release, we one can use Auto Sweep? Have you ever looked into getting more of a Random Sweep / Snap Release for more Power, or would accuracy be sacrificed?

Also your Basic Plane Angle (component 5) is the Turned Shoulder Plane, but your Plane Angle Variation (component 6) is a Double Shift. Doesn't the Double Shift use an Elbow Plane though?

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Basic plane Angle is where you are at the TOP..not on the downstroke..the double shift goes with Top Arc/Angled Line...NOT TopArc/Straight Line....

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Old 01-23-2006, 03:21 AM
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Basic plane Angle is where you are at the TOP..not on the downstroke..

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Thanks Annikan. I never really understood why it's defined to be where you are at the Top. It would seem to make more sense to define the Basic Plane Angle as the one you would use at Impact. But that's just me...
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:33 AM
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Matching Plane Shifts and Delivery Paths
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...the double shift goes with Top Arc/Angled Line...NOT TopArc/Straight Line....
You're right, Annikan, and I've taken the liberty of correcting Component #23 in the Stroke Pattern. I'll give Rob a call, and if he really meant Top Arc and Straight Line Delivery, then we will correct Component #7 (Plane Angle Variation) to Single Shift.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:43 AM
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You're right, Annikan, and I've taken the liberty of correcting Component #23 in the Stroke Pattern. I'll give Rob a call, and if he really meant Top Arc and Straight Line Delivery, then we will correct Component #7 (Plane Angle Variation) to Single Shift.
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Old 01-23-2006, 04:30 PM
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rob and i discussed this after seeing everyones comments.we both agree i have a straight line delivery.maybe you guys should wait on some videos before you start over analyzing.then you all can analyze all you want.just remember there never has been and never will be a perfect golf swing.you can only make it a pricise as you can.remember this there is more to playing tour golf than making perfect golf swings.the results are what matters.you all have to remember the difference from amateurs and professionals is a big difference.when i make adjustments it is usually half an inch off.that is precision in precision out
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John, this is really great inormation you're giving us here and I sure enjoy reading all of it. Now if I could just make it work for me I'd be all set. Talk to you soon.
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John - I found these pics of your swing. http://www.v1home.com/LESSONSHOP.ASP#
I don't know how old they are.
Are they representative for the pattern posted above?
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