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Old 12-06-2005, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Put a 10-2-D Grip -- Left Wrist Turned On Plane -- on a hammer whose head faces to the left. Then, drive a nail into a wall on your left. That is 'Throwing the Clubface at the Ball'. And it's a good thing. In fact, if you've got a 10-2-D Grip, it's the only thing! Through Impact, there is only Uncocking (Wrist Motion) and zero Roll (Hand Motion).

The quote from 4-D-0 (Release Motions) assumes the 10-2-B Grip (Left Wrist Vertical to the ground). Unlike the Release Motion required by the 10-2-D Grip (Wrist Motion only), the On Plane Uncocking of the Left Wrist (Wrist Motion) must be followed by the Roll of the #3 Accumulator Angle (Hand Motion). This Sequenced Release simultaneously returns the Left Wrist to Vertical and Squares the Clubface.

To alternatively square the Clubface by 'throwing' the Club past a Bending Left Wrist -- a Horizontal Wrist Motion -- is as disastrous as it is common. This is a different 'throw' -- ThrowAWAY! -- and it is far different than the Swinger's Release Wrist Throw (a Perpendicular Wrist Motion).
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Great post, Tong. It took me several years in TGM -- and many weak, 'dying quail' Golf Shots -- to grasp this truth.

Here's one more way to get the idea across. With your Left Hand, pick up a bottle of water, take a sip and then lower it in front of you until your left forearm is parallel to the ground. Take a look at your Left Wrist: It is Vertical. Grip a Golf Club the same way, and you're in business.

Listen up, Michael. This is the straight skinny!
Okay I've read all of the threads and now I'm very confused! ShouldI endeavor to use a 10-2-B? Why were you hitting "dying quail " shots? Becasue of 10-2-B?

Sorry but I'm not yet up to speed in deciphering all of the jargon yet.

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Old 12-07-2005, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Colonel,

Put a 10-2-D Grip -- Left Wrist Turned On Plane -- on a hammer whose head faces to the left. Then, drive a nail into a wall on your left. That is 'Throwing the Clubface at the Ball'. And it's a good thing. In fact, if you've got a 10-2-D Grip, it's the only thing! Through Impact, there is only Uncocking (Wrist Motion) and zero Roll (Hand Motion).

The quote from 4-D-0 (Release Motions) assumes the 10-2-B Grip (Left Wrist Vertical to the ground). Unlike the Release Motion required by the 10-2-D Grip (Wrist Motion only), the On Plane Uncocking of the Left Wrist (Wrist Motion) must be followed by the Roll of the #3 Accumulator Angle (Hand Motion). This Sequenced Release simultaneously returns the Left Wrist to Vertical and Squares the Clubface.

To alternatively square the Clubface by 'throwing' the Club past a Bending Left Wrist -- a Horizontal Wrist Motion -- is as disastrous as it is common. This is a different 'throw' -- ThrowAWAY! -- and it is far different than the Swinger's Release Wrist Throw (a Perpendicular Wrist Motion).

One thing I really think I suffer from and would like to minimize is throwaway. Can the 10-2-D grip make throwaway more likely to occur?

Michael
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:11 AM
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One thing I really think I suffer from and would like to minimize is throwaway. Can the 10-2-D grip make throwaway more likely to occur?

Michael
If anything Michael, having a 10-2-D makes it harder to have improper impact alignments.

For my students with chronic throwaway problems, I always assign them some quality time chipping with a 10-2-D grip followed by a cross handed (10-1-E: strong right hand action cannot overpower the flat left wrist) grip.

Once mastered, impact fallout is almost impossible!
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:14 AM
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Okay I've read all of the threads and now I'm very confused! ShouldI endeavor to use a 10-2-B? Why were you hitting "dying quail " shots? Becasue of 10-2-B?

Sorry but I'm not yet up to speed in deciphering all of the jargon yet.

Michael

Originally Posted by mabramb
One thing I really think I suffer from and would like to minimize is throwaway. Can the 10-2-D grip make throwaway more likely to occur?

Michael
Bottom line:

Go to Impact Fix (7-8 and 8-2) and take a Strong Single Action Grip (10-2-B).

As time goes by, you can skip Fix.
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
Bottom line:

Go to Impact Fix (7-8 and 8-2) and take a Strong Single Action Grip (10-2-B).

As time goes by, you can skip Fix.
Why would anyone skip FIX??? Mr Kelly emphasized its importance.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by comdpa
Why would anyone skip FIX??? Mr Kelly emphasized its importance.
I think Tong was saying this after establishment of a proper grip.

But....
Through experience, Impact Fix can be established before a round for each club. It is not part of every pre-shot rountine during a round but can be if you like. I would never tell anyone NOT to do it. Experience with my clubs (driver/5i/wedge) and the ball position alerts my hands to 'Fix.'

I do go into Impact Fix with a tough shot or crummy lie before me.

hmmm.. maybe I do it all the time then. LOL
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