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Old 02-07-2010, 04:27 PM
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Take a look at the tilt in your shoulders . . . know you're trying to miss the ground so that could be it . . . and not sure if that's the same swing or not but if you look at your garage doe . . . looks like your head is tilting back? Keep your right shoulder higher longer as you go forward?



Different swings.

Here is a sequence from the same snow shovel pass. Im working on loading the #3pp (at the knuckle, top of the shaft, for drag loading) with a Slide during the backswing...... as if the Slide stops the arms backward travel and cocks the left wrist too as the Right Elbow bends. Also trying to Turn hard after my weight gets left. Im thinking its this Turning that prolongs the Hips ability to pull the Shoulders which pull the Arms that pull the Club......... "6M1 prolongation". My bad is the ARms stopping themselves at End, Slide too far, goat hump my weight towards the left toes, stall the turning, double anchors away. Im trying to fix it all by tracing back to the "roots", further down in the ground/up downswing sequence.

The first pic is the end of the Hip Slide. So I guess I could say that its my Hip Slide that pulls my Right Shoulder down (and its the acceleration of the Right Shoulder towards the ball that is defined as the beginning of Startdown. "Startdown of the Right Shoulder" so to speak and therefore the power package but there's a ton of stuff that has preceded it down below that is motivating this move of the Right Shoulder).

So I guess, EdZ, that I drag my wet mop, with a Hip Slide and then a Hip Turn. There's for sure some overlapping there too. But its a pure Slide when it all starts happen'n.






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Old 02-07-2010, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Different swings.

Here is a sequence from the same snow shovel pass. Im working on loading the #3pp (at the knuckle, top of the shaft, for drag loading) with a Slide during the backswing...... as if the Slide stops the arms backward travel and cocks the left wrist too as the Right Elbow bends. Also trying to Turn hard after my weight gets left. Im thinking its this Turning that prolongs the Hips ability to pull the Shoulders which pull the Arms that pull the Club......... "6M1 prolongation". My bad is the ARms stopping themselves at End, Slide too far, goat hump my weight towards the left toes, stall the turning, double anchors away. Im trying to fix it all by tracing back to the "roots", further down in the ground/up downswing sequence.

The first pic is the end of the Hip Slide. So I guess I could say that its my Hip Slide that pulls my Right Shoulder down (and its the acceleration of the Right Shoulder towards the ball that is defined as the beginning of Startdown. "Startdown of the Right Shoulder" so to speak and therefore the power package but there's a ton of stuff that has preceded it down below that is motivating this move of the Right Shoulder).

So I guess, EdZ, that I drag my wet mop, with a Hip Slide and then a Hip Turn. There's for sure some overlapping there too. But its a pure Slide when it all starts happen'n.






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Not that it matters what I think, but you have a BEAUTIFUL swing. You should be VERY proud of the alignments. Great job!!

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Old 02-07-2010, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post

. . . trying to Turn hard after my weight gets left. I'm thinking it's this Turning that prolongs the Hips ability to pull the Shoulders which pull the Arms that pull the Club . . .

. . . I drag my wet mop, with a Hip Slide and then a Hip Turn. There's for sure some overlapping there too. But its a pure Slide when it all starts happen'n.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/a...1&d=1265574428
The third photo in O.B. Left's sequence tells the tale:

His Head is centered. He has wonderful Pivot Lag (lower body leading the upper from the top) and has executed a beautiful Sweep Release. As a result, he comes into the ball with textbook Left Arm and Right Forearm Flying Wedge alignments.

Left Arm straight.

Right Arm bent.

Left Wrist Flat.

Right wrist Bent.

I have seen his action in person, and believe me . . .

It's awesome!




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Old 02-08-2010, 10:17 AM
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I'd concur with all the above . . . O.B.'s action is certainly SEXY . . . more sexy than anything I could post. TEXT BOOK quality wedges . . .
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:37 AM
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I'd concur with all the above . . . O.B.'s action is certainly SEXY . . . more sexy than anything I could post. TEXT BOOK quality wedges . . .
If you want to use a model for your swing, why not use the MASTER. That's what I'm striving for in my journey. The camera angle is a little different. Not exactly the same timing through impact. A lot of similarities in these wonderful alignments.



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Old 02-08-2010, 12:10 PM
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Thanks guys.

Ill have to show you what it looks like whilst in the presence of the tyrant/ball. Not as good, but getting there, its a work in progress. Heck you should see where I was coming from though. Those knees still like 70's golf despite my best efforts.

Lynn has seen my double anchor , sweep release in action and thanks to his help and some great work with Ted Im an old dog with a few new tricks these days. Trying to keep the Hips turning, delay the Release etc. I can play with Drive Loading and a Sweep Release but its winter time up here and Im taking my Machine apart for some cleaning, maintenance and re calibration. This swing here is Drag Loading with a later Release point than normal for me. The feel of the ground/up pull is so awesome. Dont know if I'd ever really let it go enough to truly feel it before. Tendon stretch.

Kev, you're so right, Lynns action is very impressive, especially up close and in person as you know. Prior to meeting Lynn I had no intention of figuring out Mr Kelleys book, but upon witnessing, hearing Lynns strike, which had such a different sound and quality to it............I realized that in order to fully understand what Lynn was telling me, I'd have to understand the yellow book. So, here I am.

Sorry for the jack. The Swingers Startdown, yes ................not trying to cross pollenate recent threads but Buckets great comment about the Line Of Compression being the genesis of Homers book applies to Startdown. You need to have the LOC, the intention to take the ball Down, Out and Forward during the Impact Interval, clearly in mind during Startdown. Add a Horizontal Hinge Action intention maybe too.
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Old 02-08-2010, 12:40 PM
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Nice!
Loving the right arm participation! Got a pic of follow through?
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:00 PM
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Loving the right arm participation! Got a pic of follow through?
Hah, nice CSI work Okie!! Ive been outed as a Hitter posting in a Swingers thread! Im trying to swing here though honest. Drag loading, Left Wrist Throw and everything. Lynn told me I should be able to do both! Heck someday Ill have a snap release I promise. But you are correct, Im very right arm oriented by nature and tend towards a Right ARm Throw.

Here ya go, from a different swing. From here I do a little Knudsononian right foot drag. Not too long, six inches maybe. You cant do it unless you left.

Dont ask my for Finish 'cause my gut starts hanging out of that t-shirt. How the heck did I get my self into this situation? I blame you Okie and that danged good start down photo of yours and Kevs strong photos from the dome and and.......

Ive found that you cant cop positions, having tried, they're a product of the forces you're applying, employing. In these photos, Im trying to load the lag in my #3 with my lower body. Something I struggle with at times. Hip Slide with a Delayed Turn. No stalling. The Slide clears out a nice path for the inside out (but still on plane) approach of the Hands. The second "clear the right hip" of 12-3, I believe. Im good with the Slide but the Turning is problematic sometimes. The flared foot really helps.

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Old 02-08-2010, 02:01 PM
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That is one of the things a kinda liked...ahhem...your knees! Knee flex is pivotal for a centered and steady head. Afterall you are going down and through. I thinik there was some genius in Byron Nelson's so-called caddy-dip!
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:31 PM
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Per Tom's Instruction
Per Tom Tomasello's instruction...Tom says Homer is telling you how to start the club down in section "6-B-2-0 The Second Power Accumulator"...where Homer says, "Centrifugal Force, Accumulator #1, and the muscles of both forearms, any--or all--are available to actuate this assembly."

Reference Tom's Australia video series for the muscles of both forearms version of swinging and the Tomasello Letter video series for the Accumulator #1 version.

For a Centrifugal Force version, utilize trigger types 10-20-C or 10-20-E. 10-20-C per Jodie Mudd and 10-20-E per Sam Snead.

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