Eldrick Picture..good?bad? depends?

[12 piece bucket]

Is this better...worse....or just different?

[JTillery]

Impossible for someone to say this is good or bad by itself depending on so many other factors........but IMHO as of now, Tiger is still struggling with driving because he has too much lean. Foley changed the pivot but he kept the lean /lag required from when the pivot was back. Takes a lot of up and back to line that up from that picture and very difficult to be consistent.

[KevCarter]

Snap vs Sweep

Perhaps why Hogan could hit it in the Fairway and perhaps why Tiger can hit it 320.

The game has sure changed, perhaps hitting it 320 is more important than finding fairways?

Kevin

[KevCarter]

Impossible for someone to say this is good or bad by itself depending on so many other factors........but IMHO as of now, Tiger is still struggling with driving because he has too much lean. Foley changed the pivot but he kept the lean /lag required from when the pivot was back. Takes a lot of up and back to line that up from that picture and very difficult to be consistent.

JT, I've not seen Blake's swing. Which picture would be be more similar to?

Kevin

[JTillery]

For a stock shot, Mr. Hogan
Even though the camera angle is bad, that is too much angle for that pivot unless were hitting low cuts.

[12 piece bucket]

Impossible for someone to say this is good or bad by itself depending on so many other factors........but IMHO as of now, Tiger is still struggling with driving because he has too much lean. Foley changed the pivot but he kept the lean /lag required from when the pivot was back. Takes a lot of up and back to line that up from that picture and very difficult to be consistent.

What factors? Can they not be defined?

[12 piece bucket]

Snap vs Sweep

Perhaps why Hogan could hit it in the Fairway and perhaps why Tiger can hit it 320.

The game has sure changed, perhaps hitting it 320 is more important than finding fairways?

Kevin

So Hogan couldn't hit it 320 if weilding the same implement because he doesn't hit the picture? Is the assumption here that that picture produces more speed and/or power? If so...how come?

[JTillery]

Sure! Just not from a still photo.....that one in particular
Whether or not that's a "good" position would depend on (1)what type of shot he is trying to hit there:bullet-good position ......high draw: not so much
PLANE ANGLE, BALL POSITION, LEAN, AND WEIGHT SHIFT OR PIVOT IN GENERAL ARE ALL HUGE FACTORS that are intertwined and all have a role in the outcome of the overall pattern. To simply say this angle is good or bad is just SO incomplete.

[KevCarter]

So Hogan couldn't hit it 320 if weilding the same implement because he doesn't hit the picture? Is the assumption here that that picture produces more speed and/or power? If so...how come?

I've heard both sides of how long Hogan would be with today's equipment. We'll never know. I believe the guys today don't have to posess the precision they did in Hogan's day. Equipment is the great equalizer...

Kevin

[12 piece bucket]

Sure! Just not from a still photo.....that one in particular
Whether or not that's a "good" position would depend on (1)what type of shot he is trying to hit there:bullet-good position ......high draw bomb:bad position
(2) for a stock tee ball and neutral type trajectory and shape, PLANE ANGLE, BALL POSITION, AND WEIGHT SHIFT OR PIVOT IN GENERAL BECOME HUGE FACTORS

to your (1)So are we to assume that draws and high are "out" from here? Others in the thread are covetous of this photo....Eldrick can't hit it high or draw it from here? If so why?

to your (2) is this not a "stock" position?