Can U see more rotation for the punch, angled, hit list?
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No Angled assumes Angled. Don't understand your question. If you mean to ask can I see Horizontal being employed by a Hitter then I say yes. Absolutely . But I see two opposite ends of a spectrum and a middle ground. Not two lists.
The only thing arrogant hungry bear is you name dropping and claiming that homer's physics were wrong with absolutely diddly squat to back it up THAT is arrogance
No Angled assumes Angled. Don't understand your question. If you mean to ask can I see Horizontal being employed by a Hitter then I say yes. Absolutely . But I see two opposite ends of a spectrum and a middle ground. Not two lists.
Not really. What I am talking is the mechanics of the wedges that transitions from loading to hinging in the simplest, and least disruptive (compensated) way. Some other thread some other time- It's too hot here today! literal and figurative.
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No Angled assumes Angled. Don't understand your question.
I think the line of thinking goes like this:
HB and I say that the club face is closed by the golfer.
You and whip says that we must be into manipulating hands action - not that there's anything wrong with, since Hogan etc did that.
HB invites to compare angled hinge, which is what Hogan did quite often and also a lot of other greats, with a 100% swinger's dual horizontal hinge action and asks: Which club face is rotated most? The "hands manipulated" or the one where CF is supposed to do everything? The answer is that the pattern which is regarded as having the least manipulation has the most delayed and rapid club face rotation through the release & impact.
The only thing arrogant hungry bear is you name dropping and claiming that homer's physics were wrong with absolutely diddly squat to back it up THAT is arrogance
I don't think this is a fair assessment, whip. HB is looking for the truth. He has been around for a while, he doesn't take any short cuts and is a very dignified contributor at LBG.
HB and I say that the club face is closed by the golfer.
You and whip says that we must be into manipulating hands action - not that there's anything wrong with, since Hogan etc did that.
HB invites to compare angled hinge, which is what Hogan did quite often and also a lot of other greats, with a 100% swinger's dual horizontal hinge action and asks: Which club face is rotated most? The "hands manipulated" or the one where CF is supposed to do everything? The answer is that the pattern which is regarded as having the least manipulation has the most delayed and rapid club face rotation through the release & impact.
And that is a paradox.
I don't see the paradox which makes me think Im not following you Bernt. Please elaborate .... I want to know. If you ever goofed with a swingers flail you'd learn to love that rapid roll , its powerful. Transfer power as Homer called it. Or a farmers flail ....woosh.
I have always seen horizontal as a faster rate of closure generally speaking . The rate of closure however doesn't define the two hinge actions , to my mind. They are different geometrically. Closing with no layback vs closing with layback to varying degrees depending upon plane angle. They produce different ball responses. You could Horizontal and "roll the wedges " fast with Snap Release or Slow with Full Sweep . Horizontal could roll slower than some Angled rate of wedge roll if you will theoretically. Could it not?
Is the rate of wedge roll the hinge action determinant? I don't think so.
Im actually open to the idea that Hinge Actions are learned .
Horizontal is free wheeling... wooosh . Properly executed it will not hook. Though there is a tendency towards pulls or draws. Over rotation. But that is not "properly executed". Tendency towards less shaft lean maybe too. Smaller divots ... Its a different flail action .
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