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Old 03-22-2011, 09:14 PM
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Air, Just started trusting the machine. Letting the release happen and trusting it. Once you got it you just have to learn to trust it!! Let the arms swing independently just like they do when you walk. Not long to get over it. About 1500 balls.
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:18 PM
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Air, Just started trusting the machine. Letting the release happen and trusting it. Once you got it you just have to learn to trust it!! Let the arms swing independently just like they do when you walk. Not long to get over it. About 1500 balls.
That's about the number of shots I made during my stay...
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:54 PM
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I also would swing a weighted club or the orange whip trainer and just let the cetrifugal force of the clubhead release and pull me into my finish position.
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:59 PM
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I also would swing a weighted club or the orange whip trainer and just let the cetrifugal force of the clubhead release and pull me into my finish position.
Yes, I'm swinging a yellow whip trainer as often as possible. That was the first club I put in my bag before the 3W.
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:13 AM
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I also would swing a weighted club or the orange whip trainer and just let the cetrifugal force of the clubhead release and pull me into my finish position.


Thanks for coming on board and offering to talk about all this Wayne.

Im not sure what your former pattern was , doesnt really matter, but I believe I might have had a similar lesson from Yoda at one point. Did it by any chance involve anything like:

-some Bob McDonald marching exercises to separate the motion of the arms and pivot, followed by some Wild Bill Melhourne drills.

-a change in address posture to a more comfortable, upright (Hogan like) stance with the Alignment Golf "Arm Set", the Flying Wedges, Right Forearm on Plane from DTL. (Also Hogan like).

-Clear the right hip. The Pivot is the basic gyroscopic motion, a basic basic.

-Right Shoulder Flat Back , Hand go Up via the Right Forearm Fanning and Bending . Extensor Action turned on. Independent Arm motion and Pivot Motion, so no need to try to align the shoulder turn to the plane angle or left arm or anything like that.

-Hip Slide with a Delayed Turn which tilts the axis.

-A TSP angle at Top. Standard Shoulder Turn. With the On Plane move of the Right Shoulder loading the #4 Accumulator (squishing the left arm against the chest).

-Downstroke.

-Release Trigger. Possibly a Left Wrist Throw. An Non Automatic uncocking of the #2 Angle but on On Plane with the palm of the Right Hand laying flat against the underside of the plane. Followed by or slightly blended with a roll of the #3. Horizontal Hinging . The golfers flail , with a definite left Arm Blast off in Release. Swinging.


Probably missed a few things, like the Release Swivel. But is this the sort of pattern you worked on component wise? A lot of it only possible if the Arms are able to swing independently from the Pivot (with the exception of Startdown maybe where they are pinned together and the Right Shoulder is diving right at the Plane Line).

Did you feel like in the process of "de Hoganizing" you actually became more like him? I see him blasting his arms off his chest in longer shots, drives for instance. When he wanted to, in other words.

My apologies if Im way off here. Im out on a limb I know and dont wish to seem presumptive, but for the purposes of discussion I thought it would expedite things............Or maybe this is just a longer way of asking:

"Eight shots! Man, what the heck did you change?"


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Old 03-23-2011, 10:03 AM
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Well I am fortunate that I get to watch Lynn teach all the time so I had most of it down. I just feel like I swing the club now like I did when I was 17 years old before I was put into position golf. I let centrifugal force due most of the work for me. He helped me realize the more lag I was trying to create the worse I was getting. I do feel more like Hogan now.
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Old 03-23-2011, 10:08 AM
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Also we just freed up the release 4-D-0 and 2-K. I was steering for a few weeks when we changed my grip to make it a little stronger. Trust the machine!!
I dont think about RPB. I just let my educated hands do all the work and my body will do what the hands tell it to do.

The club throwing drill helped out a bunch on my release.

Now we are going to find a solution to my putting. Averaging 32 putts around wont win often.

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Old 03-23-2011, 10:18 AM
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De-Hoganizing
Thank you all
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Old 03-23-2011, 10:21 AM
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Also we just freed up the release 4-D-0 and 2-K. I was steering for a few weeks when we changed my grip to make it a little stronger. Trust the machine!!
I dont think about RPB. I just let my educated hands do all the work and my body will do what the hands tell it to do.

The club throwing drill helped out a bunch on my release.

Now we are going to find a solution to my putting. Averaging 32 putts around wont win often.
I guess it also has to do with how high procentage your GIR is. If the GIR could be almost 100%, then 32 putts wouldn't be too bad? But if there are a lot of chips, short pitches and bunker shots as well, then 32 putts is probably at least 4 too many in your case.

I would take 32 putts any day. 38-40 is about my average, I fear.
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Old 03-23-2011, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by waynewatts View Post
Also we just freed up the release 4-D-0 and 2-K. I was steering for a few weeks when we changed my grip to make it a little stronger. Trust the machine!!
I dont think about RPB. I just let my educated hands do all the work and my body will do what the hands tell it to do.

The club throwing drill helped out a bunch on my release.

Now we are going to find a solution to my putting. Averaging 32 putts around wont win often.

Thanks for sharing Wayne.

All the best.
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