Having been a student of Greg I know he gets the club deep. When I saw him I was more upright and I just couldn't get it deep enough for him. We used a plane board which was set up on a TSP but it felt so...... flat. He loves to talk about "throw out"
It is big with him. He is big into Hogan. So if you have a flatter back swing and you haven't thought about taking the club up on the downswing you are more likely thinking about throwing out rather than down. I have always seen the golf swing as up and down. The baseball swing is more on a horizontal plane and I struggle with seeing and feeling the golf swing on an inclined plane.
It seems like the left arm (deltoids) can achieve any position at the top until the right arm attaches which weighs (flattens path) it down...then, it seems like you need EA to stretch back up to TSP?? Does EA have a lesser role to a float loader like Gregg? Seems like he is not concerned with TSP and would likely not try to sacrifice momentum with overly active EA on the backswing (which is probably as harmful as braking action on the downswing for a float loader)? Is Greg sacrificing potential energy by not getting to TSP (he doesn't seem as limited to elbow plane as Allen Doyle, but he's more limited than TAIII from what I can tell), or is he just replacing it with additionally obtained "accumulated" energy (i.e. in acc #1 and #2) gained in his "float"?
You might be stronger than me with the left arm. When Im hitting balls with just it attached I have to lift a bit. Great question about EA. Does anyone familiar with Gregs videos or lessons know if he talks about EA?
My apologies for the digression but this is something Ive been wondering about for a while. I really like his motion just wondering about EA and if or when he dials it up.
You might be stronger than me with the left arm. When Im hitting balls with just it attached I have to lift a bit. Great question about EA. Does anyone familiar with Gregs videos or lessons know if he talks about EA?
My apologies for the digression but this is something Ive been wondering about for a while. I really like his motion just wondering about EA and if or when he dials it up.
EA occurs automatically when applying the RFT. GM doesn't use the RFT (GM = LCT) and since he uses the Elbow Plane, then .......
EA occurs automatically when applying the RFT. GM doesn't use the RFT (GM = LCT) and since he uses the Elbow Plane, then .......
LCT = Lagging Clubhead Takeaway?
D, you saying LCT cant be done with the Right Forearm Takeaway (RFT)? I do it. But I have to go easy on the EA from adjusted in Startup then dial it up. I've got it turned on by the time my hands are about over my right thigh...by then Ive got my Impact Hands back too as a result of the EA. Heavy EA at Adjusted can snap the Hands into their Impact Alignments which if in so doing moves the clubhead backwards would be Hogans chipping method according Homer, I believe. The so called EA takeaway.
D, you saying LCT cant be done with the Right Forearm Takeaway (RFT)? I do it. But I have to go easy on the EA from adjusted in Startup then dial it up. I've got it turned on by the time my hands are about over my right thigh...by then Ive got my Impact Hands back too as a result of the EA. Heavy EA at Adjusted can snap the Hands into their Impact Alignments which if in so doing moves the clubhead backwards would be Hogans chipping method according Homer, I believe. The so called EA takeaway.
But I dont know if GM does EA at all. OMG!
Well, Greg uses a Lagging Clubhead Take-away LCT. He "Swings" the Club to the Top. "There is no Up in the Backswing" he said. So I assume that he doesn't "push" the Club to the Top as the Right Forearm Takeaway has you do.
Uh - oh. The Right Forearm Take-away (RFT) causes Extensor Action (EA) by engaging the Right Triceps Muscle during the Backstroke. With The Right Forearm Take-away, there is no need for additional EA.
The Right Forearm Take-Away is A Procedure which takes the Club, Hands, Arms and Shoulders, from "Address to the Top of the backstroke". ((It's not just for the the Takeaway interval.))
It's the TGM preferred procedure because it engages the "Magic of the Right Forearm" so that the Right Wrist can remain Level while the Left Wrist Cocks. It's the only way to do so. TGM secret #23. Pass it on.
So I assume that he doesn't "push" the Club to the Top as the Right Forearm Takeaway has you do.
Uh - oh. The Right Forearm Take-away (RFT) causes Extensor Action (EA) by engaging the Right Triceps Muscle during the Backstroke. With The Right Forearm Take-away, there is no need for additional EA.
Couple of things:
Doesnt the Right Forearm Takeaway ...pull the club......hence the lagging condition of the clubhead during the lagging takeaway?
Also isnt EA a separate and distinct force applied to the Left Arm and Club, a non accelerating force given thats its along the line of the left arm. A stretching out of the left arm and club in line. Sorta like an artificial CF if you will. As such cant the right forearm stretch the left arm at the #1 or the the left arm and club at the #3 (less common) and accelerate the club during RFT as two distinct actions?
EA occurs automatically when applying the RFT. GM doesn't use the RFT (GM = LCT) and since he uses the Elbow Plane, then .......
So EA is "baked-in" to RFT! OK, makes sense.
Thanks, Daryl!
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So now you can understand that the larger radius of the Left Arm uses the smaller radius of the Right Arm (during the backstroke) to Cock the Left Wrist.
You can't demonstrate the Magic of the Right Forearm with your hands in front of you.
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