Some golfers have a Finish that can make you think they never re planed the club after Follow Through but photos often tell a different story. Mr Palmer for example or Moe even. The photos below are from an impromptu demonstration Moe did at the 1984 Canadian Open hosted by Glenn Abbey G.C.
O.B.,
The Plane of the 'exiting' of the golf club from the Follow-Through into the Finish is now all the rage. Is Turned Shoulder right? Is Squared Shoulder wrong?
Much of what is being written or said today concerns using the Body (Pivot / Zone #1) to control the Arms (Power / Zone #2) and Hands (Direction / Zone #3). From the hopelessly over-Plane practice stroke 'chop' I first saw years ago with Corey Pavin to the graceful On Plane exit of Sam Snead, it is an environment where Pivot-Controlled-Hands and Hands-Controlled-Pivot collide. Until this conflict is resolved -- consciously or subconsciously -- Bent Plane Lines and Compensated Strokes are inevitable.
Why not start a new thread for the discussion of same? Contact Bambam if you have any trouble moving any of this stuff over.
Ah, shoot, I've spent an hour hanging around an old thread to which I contributed a substantial number of hours. And still ardently believe every word I wrote!
This 'Best of Yoda' Forum in its present form is potent, but anemic.
There are thousands of worthwhile posts in my archives to be organized and presented to our interested readers.
The task is enormous.
I need an intern who will work under my personal direction and edit.
That was not Homer Kelley's conclusion. Enjoy the exact words of The Master:
"I think Hitting is going to become far, far more popular than Swinging
with the real blood-thirsty golfers, the money-hungry golfers. They're going
to go to Hitting because it is...they have total control; much better finesse;
more positive control of Power; and less total body involvement."
"It is far more difficult to learn, but far easier to execute
when you get it. Oh, it's so simple. Nothing ever happens. Nothing ever gets
out of line. You just take it up and come down. And you can slam it as hard
as you want to if you stayed with this Right Forearm alignment.
"And you'll find all of a sudden you don't have to 'throw' the
club. Just come down any speed you want and it just comes right through.
And not having to 'Rotate the Plane Lines' [Ed: to curve the Ball.] -- gee,
that's a tremendous advantage. But, it is harder to learn, but lots
easier to execute once you've learned it. Much more individual. You feel like
you're controlling every little ingredient."
That was not Homer Kelley's conclusion. Enjoy the exact words of The Master:
And not having to 'Rotate the Plane Lines' [Ed: to curve the Ball.] -- gee,
that's a tremendous advantage. But, it is harder to learn, but lots
easier to execute once you've learned it. Much more individual. You feel like
you're controlling every little ingredient."
"I think it's great."
And there you have it.
Can you explain why the hitter does not have to rotate the plane lines to curve the ball?
Can you explain why the hitter does not have to rotate the plane lines to curve the ball?
My belief is that the Hitter is using a naturally laid back piston-like thrust with the right elbow. To prevent that loss of compression and maintain the integrity of the "Sweet spot Plane" as it contacts the inside Aft of the ball, the Hitter employs the Horizontal Hinge which maintains a constant closing of the club face automatically.
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Can you explain why the hitter does not have to rotate the plane lines to curve the ball?
You are a "thinker", Michael. And, you have a late-teens son who is an excellent player. Neither of you have seen me personally.
Add to that, you've been on my site from the beginning (Jan 2005) and you read me the year prior (2004) on at least two other sites. I can only conclude that you've found something of value here these past seven years, else you would have been gone long ago.
Now . . .
You come of late with orientations of TrackMan as the "be all and end all" -- your own and those on another site -- whose "zeroed" Path and Face alignments, BTW, agree totally with TGM's aligned ClubHead Path and ClubFace alignment of Sketch 2-C-1 #3 (which "they" say is "junk science" ).
"We average the impact interval [Impact, Compression, Separation].
"We allow for one degree of error".
Fine and dandy to me.
Maybe not so fine and dandy to the ball.
With this whole idea of inside-outClubhead Path (from Impact to Low Point) and On-Line Line of Compression at Separation (indifferent to Low Point) -- and, per 7-2, "Ball back" (Hook alignment) and "Ball Forward" (Slice alignment) -- what say you to your own question?
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Hybrid Mode
