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Old 11-12-2010, 01:25 PM
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Each of these pictures clarly show the ball getting carried downward and to the right from impact to seperation.

That would mean the ball would get pinched between the turf and the face.

When an inclined striker does that from a solid strike, it will be a fantastic picture indeed.

I look forward to seeing it.
Okay, John, you have not responded to my post #71 seeking confirmation of the "pictures" you are referencing. Forging ahead, I assume (per my post) that you mean Sketches 2-C-1/2/3.



By the way, that was my fifth post written directly in response to one of your own and also the fifth one with zero reply from you. Mox nix to me, but I find it kind of interesting, especially given your insistence that people respond to yours "or else" you begin to wonder (your post #55).



Two points:

1. Look closely at Sketch #1 in each of the Series, i.e., 2-C-1 #1, 2-C-2 #1 and 2-C-3 #1. You will notice that the ball is sitting on a tee, and Low Point is clearly illustrated as occurring 'in the air'. Therefore, as specifically related to these drawings, there is no contact with the ground whatsoever, much less any "pinch" effect (which, of course, doesn't happen anyway, even with the ball on the ground).

2. In 2-C-1 and 2-C-2, your observation that the ball is being carried "downward and to the right" (On Plane) is correct. However, Sketch 2-C-3 illustrates the Lob Shot being executed as a deliberate Throwaway procedure. Hence, it is being carried neither downward nor to the right.
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I have several other comments -- actually, a comprehensive overview -- relating to the Sketches, their purpose and the precision depiction of the illustrated concepts. In it you will find the answers to a few of your earlier questions (and more). I will get to that task as time permits.

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Old 11-12-2010, 02:06 PM
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I personally find this discussion to be very informative and welcome (well intentioned) questions "of all kinds".
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:35 PM
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Me too, but just as "Heavy Hit" is mentioned here and many other places in LBGF as well as throughout the book, I just don't seem to get the hang of it. Heavy Hit has me bamboozled.
The forward leaning shaft and the face contact with the ball resulting in compression--I get. It feels great. It is highly addictive and winter is going to be tough. But Heavy Hit may be my next exploration.
Sorry to threadjack, if that is indeed what I just did, but I would love to either see a response from anyone or a reference to somewhere for me to look further.
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:41 PM
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Me too, but just as "Heavy Hit" is mentioned here and many other places in LBGF as well as throughout the book, I just don't seem to get the hang of it. Heavy Hit has me bamboozled.
The forward leaning shaft and the face contact with the ball resulting in compression--I get. It feels great. It is highly addictive and winter is going to be tough. But Heavy Hit may be my next exploration.
Sorry to threadjack, if that is indeed what I just did, but I would love to either see a response from anyone or a reference to somewhere for me to look further.
Regards to all and thanks for your service, Vets.
You have it and just don't know it. It's that great feeling of compression when you have a forward leaning shaft and lag pressure!



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Old 11-12-2010, 03:50 PM
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Oh sure, easy for you to state. Now I suppose I am going to have to head out to Anoka for another discussion and have this pointed out over a cup of coffee.
Remember, I am a bit obtuse.


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You have it and just don't know it. It's that great feeling of compression when you have a forward leaning shaft and lag pressure!



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Old 11-12-2010, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryG View Post
Oh sure, easy for you to state. Now I suppose I am going to have to head out to Anoka for another discussion and have this pointed out over a cup of coffee.
Remember, I am a bit obtuse.
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Come on over this weekend. I'll be in the shop all by myself watching it snow. I'll be here from 9-3. Bring plain coffee with lots of caffeine and cream, and I never refuse a donut!

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Old 11-12-2010, 03:58 PM
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You got it Kev. To me heavy and lag pressure are (much) the same thing. (add extensor action and grip pressure etc) To maintain a constant amount of lag PRESSURE (psi's not degrees or angles) you need to accelerating at a constant RATE. You can accelerate fast or slow a move to a lower rate though you are still accelerating will have a corresponding drop in lag pressure.

Homer wanted us to "Sustain the Lag" PRESSURE!

Force =. Mass x Acceleration

I hope bernt and bear concur.

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Old 11-12-2010, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
You got it Kev. To me heavy and lag pressure are the same thing. To maintain a constant amount of lag PRESSURE (psi's not degrees or angles) you need to accelerating at a constant RATE. You can accelerate fast or slow a move to a lower rate though you are still accelerating will have a corresponding drop in lag pressure.

Force =. Mass x Aceleration

I hope bernt and bear concur.
Damn, when I saw "you got it Kev" I thought it was Jerry coming with donuts...

Thanks OB!

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John, Daryl, gentlemen, friends, Romans, countrymen...

Jerry, the "heavy hit" to me is the whole back shoulder dragged into place by a slow, deliberate PIvot. The shoulder is dragged down plane and the elbow and forearm thrust powerfully against it employing the entire back side of the body to heavily "smosh" the ball. (I love inventing terms!)

I have a marketing idea for you Kevin, and every other winter-bound region: Institute "Winter Short Game" and "Golf Theory" clinics. Name a price and teach them how to find the sweet spot on their putters, chips and pitches. Two sessions. Fit them for a putter and wedges $$$$$$$$ ! Pre and post Christmas and Hannukah! (My peeps golf!) Then, Session III, "Acquiring a Full Swing," finishes about Spring.

Of course, participants get free range balls once a month through the season, and a 5% discount on a season's playing pass if they pay cash, up front!!!!

Each week, show Alignment I clips and other LBG stuff. Serve donuts!!!!! Chocolate donuts. Fly Win McMurray into MNPLS!!!! Toronto! She can sign our free
(golf) balls!! If people will pay for Palin, they will come to see Win show them how to put and chip!

John, think carefully before answering this next question....wouldn't you enjoy speaking with Win McMurray?

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Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
Damn, when I saw "you got it Kev" I thought it was Jerry coming with donuts...

Thanks OB!

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