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Old 11-11-2010, 08:46 AM
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a converted hitter?
This is the first time I have set my foot in this room. All my tendencies tell me that I am a hitter, but it's not adviceable for me I guess, so I must start thinking like a swinger.

It's the pull feeling I have to enhance.What should I be pulling? And how? Does that mean that I must swing my left shoulder more than before (and avoid using my right shoulder too much (OTT)).

I guess it's exactly because hitting is so natural for me that I have to stop doing it, because my violent hit from the top causes all my (earlier!?) problems, so I have to get rid of it?

BTW how can you best get a downstroke that comes from the inside to/thru the ball?
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:19 AM
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How to think like a Swinger.

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No amount of effort will produce more than a player’s maximum turning speed. Regardless of effort you simply cannot push anything faster than you can run. Mechanical Advantage (1-H) must be utilized making Clubhead acceleration on “Overtaking” process (2-P, 6-M-1).
The Pivot is Powerful but not fast. We'll convert that Power into Clubhead speed, not all at once, but through a sequence of accelerations.

The Shoulders acquire their rotation speed and direction from the Pivots motion and force. The Power Package is our mechanism to add Mechanical Advantage to Accelerate the Clubhead. Mechanical Advantage is the factor by which a mechanism multiplies the force applied to it.


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Power Accumulators Release sequence is #4, #1, #2, #3 – regardless of which ones are being employed. Any Accumulator number may overlap or replace its preceding number but cannot precede it. Increase Overlap to increase THRUST – decrease Overlap to increase Velocity.
Power Accumulators store Pivot Force as "Potential Force". We can deliver the accumulators, each with their potential energy and release them one at a time, increasing or decreasing their overlap to control the "Acceleration Rate" of the Clubhead.

All of that, applies to a "Hitter" as well. Hitter use Power Package Thrust to Release the Accumulators, Swingers harness CF. The rest is just technical stuff. I have a Book somewhere, that talks a little bit about this.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:27 AM
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There you are. Had to switch threads.
You answered in the thread I tried to delete, but couldn't find the delete button. But thanks anyway. I can jump from one to the other. "The rest is technical stuff" Indeed. I'll have to chew on this one till I need to go to the dentist.
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:28 PM
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I'll delete your duplicate thread....

To this topic, a really great drill to feel a swinger's load on PP#4 is to go to the top of your swing (with or without a club) and have someone hold your hands in place as you try to move down into the downswing (startdown waggle).

You won't need to move much into the downswing to feel the loading!

Doing this drill will let you feel how the pivot's power loads the pressure between the left arm and chest (PP#4) and most importantly, that the pulling feel is a result - your pivot is doing the pulling.
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:50 PM
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I'll delete your duplicate thread....
How did you do that?
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:54 PM
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I'll delete your duplicate thread....

To this topic, a really great drill to feel a swinger's load on PP#4 is to go to the top of your swing (with or without a club) and have someone hold your hands in place as you try to move down into the downswing (startdown waggle).

You won't need to move much into the downswing to feel the loading!

Doing this drill will let you feel how the pivot's power loads the pressure between the left arm and chest (PP#4) and most importantly, that the pulling feel is a result - your pivot is doing the pulling.
So to do this drill you need a helper?
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:37 PM
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I know it is true but wanting more distance I try adding more. With all the discussions on forums of snapping the chain, adding drive, sustain the torque, etc I have been struggling with my swing. Today it was 75 in south carolina and I went out to play. Having seen a video of a swing with only the right arm I decided to try "pure swinging". Any rate I cleared my brain and at address just let my arms hang. I made a relaxed motion and hit the the best I have for several months. In fact I was over two greens because of added distance. Went in two fairway bunkers on a lay up shot because my usual club carried 15 yards further. So I am not interested in learning anything more about how to "power my swing", delaying my release, parametric acceleration, CP vs CF release, etc. I just pray I can remember tomorrow today's swing. How about a thread on how to keep it once you find it.
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by david sandridge View Post
I know it is true but wanting more distance I try adding more. With all the discussions on forums of snapping the chain, adding drive, sustain the torque, etc I have been struggling with my swing. Today it was 75 in south carolina and I went out to play. Having seen a video of a swing with only the right arm I decided to try "pure swinging". Any rate I cleared my brain and at address just let my arms hang. I made a relaxed motion and hit the the best I have for several months. In fact I was over two greens because of added distance. Went in two fairway bunkers on a lay up shot because my usual club carried 15 yards further. So I am not interested in learning anything more about how to "power my swing", delaying my release, parametric acceleration, CP vs CF release, etc. I just pray I can remember tomorrow today's swing. How about a thread on how to keep it once you find it.
How you sucessfully manage to swing with your arms just hanging there is beyond me - and even getting longer shots. Must be nice. It must be the pivot and CF that does the work, but nevertheless maintaining the concept of a hands controlled pivot!?
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Old 11-12-2010, 12:04 AM
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How about a thread on how to keep it once you find it.
I'm all for it.

This must be one of the major challenges in the game.
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Old 11-12-2010, 05:54 PM
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I'm all for it.

This must be one of the major challenges in the game.
Most golfers just want to find it, I quess. But once found, I understand the wish to keep it.
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