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Old 06-07-2010, 11:07 PM
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Where do the eyes focus in the golf swing?
Golf ball?
Aiming point?
Somewhere else?
If the golf ball do you focus on a particular quadrant, dimple, or what?
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:21 PM
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No thoughts? comments?
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:42 PM
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Hocus Focus
IMO, I see the whole ball, but in clear focus. Seeing a blurred ball can mean your mind is not focused and your mind is in a "confused mental state".
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:28 PM
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The “On Plane” Pressure Point Thrust of the Power Accumulators translates their Potential Energy into Clubhead “On Plane” Kinetic Energy – always at Right Angles to the Clubshaft. However, it is Clubhead Lag Pressure (10-11-0-2 and 10-11-0-3), educated per 5-0 that enables the player to comply with Delivery Path requirements (2-J-3 and 7-23). Clubhead Lag (Pressure Points 1, 2 and/or 3) deals exclusively with the Sweet Spot Plane (2-F, 7-5) and is always driven into Impact – at a point, normally, on the inside aft quadrant of the Ball per 7-3. As the Ball is moved toward the Right Foot, the Fix alignment of the Clubface becomes more and more “Closed” to THE DELIVERY PATH, DELIVERY LINE AND THE LAG PRESSURE POINT (for a straightaway Flight Line). Study 7-3.
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The eyes are focused where the #3 PP is aimed.

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The “Angle of Approach” position of the Right Forearm shows the precise Cross-Line direction the Forearm must take through Impact. It, thereby, precisely locates the visual Impact Point – where the eye must direct the Pressure Point #3 – the inside-aft quadrant of the Ball. Remember, the Actual Angle of Approach of the Clubhead is determined by Ball Position (2-N) so the Cross Line position of the Right Forearm is ONLY the On Plane Forearm Thrust per 1-L-9/10/11. Even with the Pitch Basic Stroke. So the Right Forearm must leave – and precisely return to – its own Fix Position (7- “Angle of Approach” (regardless of the true Clubhead Angle of Approach) because both procedures will produce identical Clubhead Delivery Lines.

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Old 06-08-2010, 10:25 PM
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Where you put your eyes is one thing. How you align your head can have a profound influence on the outcome.

For instance: You can take a practice stroke while you look at the target - and everything works all right. Or you can take a perfect practice stroke while you look towards the back swing. Then, if you tilt your head - up or down, right or left - it can ruin your stroke. The head location and orientation has a huge impact on how you move the pivot.
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:35 PM
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Thanks Daryl,
I think the hard part is re-learning to focus on the aiming point and not the ball
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:11 PM
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You want to have the ball in the center of your vision . . . to do that you gotta get your neck BENT DOWN . . . not like Tiger or Adam Scott . . . they can't see the ball.





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Watch how he tilts his neck down thru the swing . . .



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Old 06-09-2010, 02:33 PM
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Ive been giving this some thought of late in regard to Steering, Throwaway, Homer and the dandelion.........I'm thinking that........

If you are using the aiming point procedure it replaces the ball. Something quite common in bunker play where you aim at a point of entry in the sand by looking right at it. You hold your focus on it. Daryl's great quotes still hold, but at Fix only . You establish your clubface angle and relationship to the inside aft of the ball at Fix and then find your Aiming Point along the Delivery Line. If on the other hand you're employing the alternate method, Tracing you keep your focus on the ball.

Somewhere, I think in the Address Procedure Video with Ted Fort, Yoda also discusses how eventually the entire club disappears.....leaving us with just our hands, the pressure points and the Delivery Line. Indeed for the Angle of Approach Procedure .......the Target Line has vanished as well. Basically everything is disappearing!

I've learned that, for me anyways, the Aiming Point Procedure can really help out on those nervy little pitches and chips where there can be a tendency to Steer or throw the clubface at the ball. Dave Stockton has discussed how he uses a similar procedure when putting. He'd love Homer's dandelion story and its revelations I bet, he's got a lot of related stuff in his teaching. De-pressurizing anti Steering stuff.

Again somewhere not sure where, Yoda shared with us that Larry Nelson likes to pay as little attention to the ball as possible. I like that......a lot.

Im trying to swing like I'm swinging at dandelions.......The Three Stations , Address , Top , Finish. Absolutely zero consideration for Impact with the ball. It just gets in the way.

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Old 06-09-2010, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mb6606 View Post
Thanks Daryl,
I think the hard part is re-learning to focus on the aiming point and not the ball
It can be sort of like having a really ugly putter.....if the ball starts to go in it'll become a darn good looking putter to your eye. The Aiming Point is weird at first but if its working you'll learn to love it and quickly. At issue is the variance in the time it takes different lengthed clubs to switch ends, release. Changing the Aiming Point fore and aft of the ball was like magic for me when Yoda showed it to me the first time. With the driver especially. Its takes some trial error to find the right spot but when you do .............blammo.

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Old 06-09-2010, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post

What if Tiger previewed this set of alignments in Fix? He's looking straight out here, nice Right Arm. Wonder if he'd still Bob?

Guess we'll never know.
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