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Old 06-19-2009, 10:51 PM
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Glad you're experiencing your recent successes, laangels. Stay with us . . . there's more to come!

There are three Major Basic Strokes: Punch, Pitch and Push. Punch and Pitch demand Right Forearm/Elbow Fanning -- the Hands move around the Right Elbow -- and that Action begins immediately.

Only with Push is there no fanning. Instead, the Right Elbow is positioned in an 'up and out' location at Address, and the Hands are held between the Right Elbow and the Ball throughout the Stroke.

P-U-S-H.

A ponderous Action that produces very little distance in relation to the applied Thrust.

With all due respect to many fine teachers, you can't learn this stuff in this depth ANYWHERE else!!!

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Old 06-20-2009, 10:58 AM
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I second that! Knowing the difference between pitch...punch and push has been a great help to me, especially as it relates to "fanning." It may be a very simple motion but most people do not do it! Why? They are too busy heaving a baby grand with a shoulder turn takeaway. For INSTANT simplification try the right forearm takeaway! My pops was acquainted with the great South African, Bobby Locke. He asked Mr. Locke what he thought to be the key to success in tournament play, Locke answered "Economy of motion...conserving energy." at least something to that effect. I never got that really until my stroke pattern started to shed uneccessary movement!
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:33 PM
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I second that! Knowing the difference between pitch...punch and push has been a great help to me, especially as it relates to "fanning." It may be a very simple motion but most people do not do it! Why? They are too busy heaving a baby grand with a shoulder turn takeaway. For INSTANT simplification try the right forearm takeaway! My pops was acquainted with the great South African, Bobby Locke. He asked Mr. Locke what he thought to be the key to success in tournament play, Locke answered "Economy of motion...conserving energy." at least something to that effect. I never got that really until my stroke pattern started to shed uneccessary movement!
Okie, very interesting about your dad and Bobby Locke.
Mr. Locked said his SECRET #7 was: Taking the putter
back far enough to build up the necessary potential energy
to be accumulated in the putter head for the particular putt
at hand...
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:37 AM
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An Afternoon with Mr. Locke
Mr. locke was a grand gentleman, that called everybody "Master!" I started playing golf in 1986. I was slated to play a round with Mr. Locke in the Fall of 1987 (Southern Hem.), unfortunately he passed away quite suddenly that summer (Feb. I think it was) I did get one of his flat white caps and three Slazenger golf balls (which I promptly sacrificed to the golfing gods!) Most prized however was a 5 minute personal exchange and a 2 minute putting lesson. My Dad told me at the time to "...brrrand everrrry worrrrd he says into yourrr mind, laddie (pops is a displaced Glaswegian). Unfortunately my memory of that lesson is corrupted by my serial reading of Bobby's book! I do remember the licking sound that he made when striking putts. His putter (a copy of his original) was very heavy (but then Okie was a mere squirt) He told me to address it on the toe so not to cut across it, and to a golfer hitting putts nearby he admonished me not to play "squash" balls. I had not idea what he was talking about. Today I think he was referencing his preference for a harder...noisier ball. My father recalls the exchange verbatim (endowed with a freakish memory for minutia) At the time everyone's golfing hero was Norman, Couples etc. mine was Arthur D'Arcy Locke! I watched him play about 27 holes (back nine X 3) He walked as though in slow motion. His book is still one of my favorites. I regret never asking him to sign it. I need to scan some of the pics. There are some good examples of #3 PP, sequenced release, as well as flying wedges. He had a pretty narrow endless belt going as well! Oh, yes the short conversation dealt with the most important club in the bag was the 15th club, the one that wears the hat!

Do you think Locke's insistence that the putt be addressed towards the toe for putts is an innate understanding of 2-J-1?
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:21 PM
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Thanks for sharing that Okie. A friend of mine played with Locke at the Wanderers club in South Africa. Many stories.
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