You know what the irony of that statement is? Sure enough Yodasluke will be the one in his group that develops age related physical problem.. arthritis something ... he will be striken. He acts all high and mighty now, while he's barely into middle age but you watch... when life dishes out some of its lessons to him (and its surely will with such a self-righteous attitude... karma) he'll be screaming excuses at the top of his lungs to some young know-it-all punk telling him to get to the gym and quit making excuses .
Anyway Jeff, you're doing fine given your age and late taking up of the sport. Congrats..
One thing that you obviously do not about Ted is that I can honestly say he has NEVER made an excuse for anything that has to do with golf. I got to know him in 2003 and have watched his game progress dramatically since then. Like myself, I believe Ted has taken Homer's work and used it for his benefit. Lynn has been an integral part of his development and Ted is always looking for a better way to do anything. Ted is playing better than he ever has but when he plays good he rarely brags, and when he plays bad he NEVER makes excuses.
Ted will also never tell you that he ran track in college and did not start the game until his senior year. I did not even know Ted and we went to the same school and ate at the same Athletic facility. So since we both left college I would say that he has done quite well for himself as a teacher and a player, especially since I only had almost 20 years experience on him.
I think Ted would agree that he is no where close to the Physical shape he was in during his college years. Yet because he knows a more efficient way of swinging (or in Ted's case hitting) a golf ball, he has gotten longer with age and with less "physical abilities".
Ted and Lynn are both far to nice to ever tell someone exactly how they feel. You really have to push Ted's buttons to get him riled up. I think you may be close to doing just that. So let me save you some time and effort by telling you to back off and stay on task. I have read this thread and feel that Jeff and yourself derive much pleasure from arguing worthless points. There is probably a reason why Jeff is not allowed to post on any other area of this site, or any other site for that matter. This site is for all golfers to learn about how to play better golf, not to allow Jeff to ask bizarre questions and then argue the answers given. I suggest you and Jeff get together and create your own site and stay off this one. I for one would enjoy being a part of it more.
You wrote-: "I suggest you and Jeff get together and create your own site and stay off this one. I for one would enjoy being a part of it more."
I can appreciate the fact that you don't enjoy my posts and that you don't find them instructive.
However, I cannot understand why you would enjoy LBG's website more if this "Golf by Jeff" forum didn't exist. You are not compelled to visit this forum section of Yoda's website if it disturbs your mental state of equanimity. Why must a poster's opinions conform to your personal need to avoid mental/emotional disccomfort? Why don't you just avoid reading their opinions?
You wrote-: "I suggest you and Jeff get together and create your own site and stay off this one. I for one would enjoy being a part of it more."
I can appreciate the fact that you don't enjoy my posts and that you don't find them instructive.
However, I cannot understand why you would enjoy LBG's website more if this "Golf by Jeff" forum didn't exist. You are not compelled to visit this forum section of Yoda's website if it disturbs your mental state of equanimity. Why must a poster's opinions conform to your personal need to avoid mental/emotional disccomfort? Why don't you just avoid reading their opinions?
Jeff.
First of all, I try to look at things through a someone else's perspective, mainly a new visitor or someone who frequents this site on a casual basis. Through this lens I see more than you can imagine. I even communicate with other members who share my view. Because you have nothing better to do than spend hours every day wrting useless posts, the only thing that comes up on the unread posts area are yours. I try to stay current on eveything on this site. Because I have a life and a job, I am not able to contribute as much as I would like. There are many things you have posted that are incorrect, argumentative, and boorish. I can also tell you that posts like yours drive others like myself away, but no more.
Trust me, I do not need anyone's personal opinions to conform to my own. I usally give my opinion, try to back it up with facts and move on. I can't tolerate arguments over MY OPINIONS. If I express something as fact then by all means prove it wrong. But when you argue opinions nobody wins.
As many on this site who have ever met me can tell you, I care little about what others think about me. However, I care passionately about protecting the "team", this includes Ted, Lynn, and the many others who make a "positive" contribution to this site. Even though you have your own area, in my opinion you are not part of this team.
When you were posting about "switting" and I tried to explain that there is no such word on this site you argued that fact. When I tried to defend a great teacher and personal friend, once again you come back with statements about "my opinions" that you have no clue about. All you seem to do is use big words and technical terms that very few on this site comprehend or care about. This site is about learning to play golf better. There is plenty of information to help everyone do just that. Try not to confuse everyone with your own personal agenda.
Who knows where the camera is, but it looks like it's within a few miles of being On Plane. The Sweet Spot is ON Plane in all three pictures. The hosel is not On Plane at Impact.
In the first picture, the hosel looks like it's very close to the Sweet Spot Plane.
In the second picture, the hosel is not on the Sweet Spot Plane.
In the last picture, the hosel is approaching the Sweet Spot Plane, again. I'd prefer to have the next frame, but Tiger would be blocking the view.
"The second example refers to the MOI of the clubhead about the shaft axis. Little is spoken about this MOI in equipment marketing, but it is an important head design factor that can affect the accuracy of the shot, not the distance. The bigger the head or the more weight that is placed far out on the toe of the clubhead, the higher the MOI of the head will be about the shaft's axis. The smaller the head or the more weight that is positioned in the heel area of the head, the lower the MOI of the head will be about the shaft's axis. The higher the clubhead MOI around the shaft, the more tendency there is for a golfer to leave the face open at impact. The lower the clubhead MOI around the shaft, the more tendency there is for a golfer to rotate the face more closed at impact."
Now, it seems that the closer is the sweetspot to the hosel, the easier is to rotate the whole clubhead, and viceversa. Going further, it seems that it would be the easiest for a golfer to a center-shafted club. OTOH, it would be more difficult to close the face of a very long-nosed club with a lot of weight on the toe part.
It got me thinking if:
- one could ever play with a center-shafted club and full swings without risking of a premature closure of the clubface;
- depending on a weight distribution it is possible to find a unique solution that would guarantee an automatic closure of the clubface while maintaining neutral torque in the arms the whole swing.
- lastly - it proves the theory that somehow the clubhead does not turn around the hosel, neither around the sweetspot (because the sweetspot depends on where the CoG of the clubhead is located), but rather around an imaginary line coming trough the MOI axis of the total club as NM Golfer suggested (that can come also through the sweetspot of the clubhead in many cases and maybe such clubs are "the best").
I cannot fathom why you presented the last three photos of Tiger Woods.
You have drawn a red line through the ball at impact and stated that the hosel is not on that plane line. Of course it cannot be on that plane line if the sweetspot is on that plane line. At impact, the hosel and sweetspot cannot possibly be on the same plane.
However, they are on the same plane at the extremes of the impact zone.
What can one conclude other than the fact that there is only a very small difference between the clubshaft plane and the sweetspot plane within the vicinity of the ball (roughly within 1 foot of the ball) while there is virtually no difference as one gets closer to the third and fourth parallels? Also, the difference between the clubshaft plane line at impact and the sweetspot plane line at impact is very small and of no apparent practical significance.
If I drew the red line from PP#3 to the hosel, I would be able to demonstrate that the hosel is also very close to that red line when the clubshaft is near the third and fourth parallels. I personally don't think that my demonstration would help to clarify matters.