Moe has a unique double shift back swing which starts on the turned shoulder plane and makes the first shift to the elbow plane and then the second shift back to the turned shoulder plane. Form the top of the back swing Moe stays on the turned shoulder plane through impact. Check out this video as the instructor does not have a clue.
When I was a certified Natural Golf Instructor 15 years ago I would teach hitting with Moe’s double shift back swing and not the single axis plane they thought it was. The golfers I taught learned to hit the ball well with this action. The golfers who were taught that it was a single axis plane did not. This instructor is from the Hank Haney school of thought of parallel planes but this instructor thinks the parallel planes are a single plane.
He needs G.O.L.F. BIG TIME!!
Last edited by purehitter : 08-01-2008 at 10:21 PM.
Definition of plane confuse a lot of folks. This video may not use the same terminology as TGM, but it has some very important visuals.
'the' plane - the plane of force that sustains the line of compression (1:07 mark) the path of PP#1 (given zero accumulator #3 in this case) This is a far better visual of plane than Hogan's pane of glass IMO.
the 'follow through' - both arms straight
very clear demonstration of the 'flying wedges' (2:50 mark)
And the importance of using impact fix as a guide to setup (5:17)
Keeping in mind that Moe's #3 accumulator angle was near zero, his motion is an outstanding example of TGM.
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Moe has a unique double shift back swing which starts on the turned shoulder plane and makes the first shift to the elbow plane and then the second shift back to the turned shoulder plane. Form the top of the back swing Moe stays on the turned shoulder plane through impact. Check out this video as the instructor does not have a clue.
When I was a certified Natural Golf Instructor 15 years ago I would teach hitting with Moe’s double shift back swing and not the single axis plane they thought it was. The golfers I taught learned to hit the ball well with this action. The golfers who were taught that it was a single axis plane did not. This instructor is from the Hank Haney school of thought of parallel planes but this instructor thinks the parallel planes are a single plane.
He needs G.O.L.F. BIG TIME!!
So many planes around nowadays you kinda need to be an air traffic controller or an engineer building them so HK gets full marks in this catergory
What is so tough about tracing a straight line from at least hip to hip?
Moe's real swing was never taught by the Natural Golf folks- they spoke of a single axis and always claiimed the left arm and shaft where on plane, clearing they knew nothing of the flying wedges (but who outside TGM did). Moe is a friend to this forum. As for planes. Everyone must get back to the elbow plane before impact (right forearm magic) - if you stayed on it for the entire swing, your arms would just wrap around your waist. Its all in the hands
Definition of plane confuse a lot of folks. This video may not use the same terminology as TGM, but it has some very important visuals.
'the' plane - the plane of force that sustains the line of compression (1:07 mark) the path of PP#1 (given zero accumulator #3 in this case) This is a far better visual of plane than Hogan's pane of glass IMO.
the 'follow through' - both arms straight
very clear demonstration of the 'flying wedges' (2:50 mark)
And the importance of using impact fix as a guide to setup (5:17)
Keeping in mind that Moe's #3 accumulator angle was near zero, his motion is an outstanding example of TGM.
This is why we have G.O.L.F. and the planes and plane shifts should be explained by the book (TGM). This parallel plane stuff is only making it harder for golfers to understand the True G.O.L.F. Motion. If it is a one plane swing then it has zero a shift. Moe does not do this and many are making a living telling this lie of a one plane swing. I oppose this type of instruction and will point it out when I see it. Ed, by saying that there are some good references by this instructor is giving in to the B.S. spreading in golf instruction. The more we explain G.O.L.F. or Homers way the golfer will understand the True G.O.L.F. Motion. It is G.O.L.F. or the highway for me.
Definition of plane confuse a lot of folks. This video may not use the same terminology as TGM, but it has some very important visuals.
If you want to keep it simple just explain 3 of the five planes, the hands, elbow and the turned shoulder planes with single and double shifts. I explain this in every lesson with video or still pictures of tour players and have not had a problem with confusing the golfer. I feel the golfer needs to know this correct understanding of what is going on with swing planes. How do you teach swing planes?
By paying attention to the hands, PP#1's travel. (see drills section)
A lot of folks get hung up paying attention to the shaft, but IMO it is far, far simpler to look at the hands and their travel.
Snead's "Wagon Wheel" and a focus on the hands are much easier to teach and explain than plane shifts etc. Within Homer's views of plane, I understand where he was coming from, but I think a LOT of people forget how he defined plane - "center of gravity" Per 2-F - not shaft.
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