Not sure I looked looked looked deeply enough, because I see Nicklaus as an example of an upright plane and Hogan of course as the poster child of a flatter plane. I also see the side representing Jack's ball to feet has a shorter relative dimension than than the flatter plane player would have, which makes sense. So keep going, how does this relate to different inclined planes? Don't tell me Homer labelled them according to some body feature of the player?
Not sure I looked looked looked deeply enough, because I see Nicklaus as an example of an upright plane and Hogan of course as the poster child of a flatter plane. I also see the side representing Jack's ball to feet has a shorter relative dimension than than the flatter plane player would have, which makes sense. So keep going, how does this relate to different inclined planes? Don't tell me Homer labelled them according to some body feature of the player?
UPP in snowy and confused Ohio
You're sniffin' now . . . Flat vs. Upright . . .So if we drew a triangle from the hands at start down on Nicklaus vs. Hogan . . . the bottom line whatever the heck that is called would be different right?
What component of the Plane (down out & forward) does that represent?
You're sniffin' now . . . Flat vs. Upright . . .So if we drew a triangle from the hands at start down on Nicklaus vs. Hogan . . . the bottom line whatever the heck that is called would be different right?
What component of the Plane (down out & forward) does that represent?
Call it the base of the triangle.
That line would represent the out of the three dimensions of impact.
That line would represent the out of the three dimensions of impact.
Boom.
So here's the $64,000 question for UppandDownn(that you, g-money, are not allowed to answer because you know it!!!)
If the base of the Triangle represents the OUT . . . then how do you have to work your shoulders inorder to get the club to comply with the plane angle and amount of OUT IN THE PLANE??? ON BOTH SIDES DOWN AND THRU???
Holla back!!!!
gmoney-69 . . . DON'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION OR I'LL SEND MIKE O TO YOUR HOUSE TO GIVE YOU HERPES COMPLEX 1.
So here's the $64,000 question for UppandDownn(that you, g-money, are not allowed to answer because you know it!!!)
If the base of the Triangle represents the OUT . . . then how do you have to work your shoulders inorder to get the club to comply with the plane angle and amount of OUT IN THE PLANE??? ON BOTH SIDES DOWN AND THRU???
Holla back!!!!
gmoney-69 . . . DON'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION OR I'LL SEND MIKE O TO YOUR HOUSE TO GIVE YOU HERPES COMPLEX 1.
Don't worry, I won't. Don't need the herpres! Anybody trying to get to my house better have some wicked snow tires.
I only answered the last one because I'm starting to get where your going.
As you now know, I'm still incubating the concept.
If the base of the Triangle represents the OUT . . . then how do you have to work your shoulders inorder to get the club to comply with the plane angle and amount of OUT IN THE PLANE??? ON BOTH SIDES DOWN AND THRU???
My guess at the money would be that the shoulders for the ball that is further from the feet would need to work more "out" and on a flatter plane. More out and less down. This may also create more axis tilt and a more "open" shoulder alignment at impact. The ball flight would tend to be a bit lower. That's my final answer.....let me know if and where I can pick up the "ka-ching"
If the base of the Triangle represents the OUT . . . then how do you have to work your shoulders inorder to get the club to comply with the plane angle and amount of OUT IN THE PLANE??? ON BOTH SIDES DOWN AND THRU???
My guess at the money would be that the shoulders for the ball that is further from the feet would need to work more "out" and on a flatter plane. More out and less down. This may also create more axis tilt and a more "open" shoulder alignment at impact. The ball flight would tend to be a bit lower. That's my final answer.....let me know if and where I can pick up the "ka-ching"
Go borrow that dowel from your cute lil' boo boo in your avatar . . . . take you hands extreme high . . . . leave them at top and start down with your body . . . take your hands extreme low. . . .leave them there . . . start down with your body.
OK. The flatter plane reflects a longer baseline and more level shoulder movement. Conversely, the upright plane is a shorter baseline and more tilted shoulder movement. The turned shoulder plane probably lies in between these two extremes for most of us. I have that. The pivot - if a kinetically linked movement from the ground up, happens very rapidly as a stretch-shorten muscle move. Now I am stuck. What are you getting at from here, Bucks?
OK. The flatter plane reflects a longer baseline and more level shoulder movement. Conversely, the upright plane is a shorter baseline and more tilted shoulder movement. The turned shoulder plane probably lies in between these two extremes for most of us. I have that. The pivot - if a kinetically linked movement from the ground up, happens very rapidly as a stretch-shorten muscle move. Now I am stuck. What are you getting at from here, Bucks?
You are on it . . . just so we make sure we got it . . .
What part of the pivot makes the club go OUT?
What part of the pivot makes the club go DOWN?
Talk to me about the requirements for steep plane vs. flat plane.
AND talk to me about how the hands have to exit to maintain the plane without a shift in the plane line.
EXIT STAGE LEFT? STAGE RIGHT? OUT THRU THE EAR HOLE? NECK? SHOULDER? MID SECTION? How doe the shoulders and tilt help you with the EXIT?
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