If it helps I do remember reading Yoda's reference to hitting the outside rear quadrant of the ball to draw it, but I do not recall the thread. It was my impression that the stroke was still down, forward, and out, and that the face was closed enough relative to the stroke that the closing toe contacted a point on the outside rear quadrant a millisecond before the rest of the face compressed the ball, creating counter-clockwise or hooking spin.
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