Might someone please post the Mays / Hogan / Venturi pic(s) from this book?
I saw Hogan play about 15 times & his concentration and "management" was something to behold. His iron shots had a very distict sound similar to the loud crack of a rifle not a "pop" at all. He was an excellent putter, too. But his range work was absolutely unbeleivable...consistently flying golf balls into a dayum shag bag or hitting his shag caddie. It would an OSHA violation today!
Bh also not a total A**hole and had an affinity for Hollywood, movie, sport's stars. He shared his thoughts with allot of people. I'm convinced if BH said his cupped left wrist was his "secret" then he believed it to his very core. But even BH decsribed golf swing movements he "felt" he did that simply aren't supported by film. That's the fatal problem with this silly game.
Bucket et al......is the missing link move what actually stops the clubs backward movement? Do you have to be loose, loose,loose with the hands to really feel the rubber band stretch? Is this a fountain of youth move for the round belly set?
Just got the book and from what I can tell it zeros in on HULA-HULA 7-14 Hip Turn and 7-15 Hip Action
Also, the explanation of constant ball position and low point, combined with Hogan's missing piece, explains how he eliminated the left side of the course.
Combine this with Clampett's book and you can put together a pretty good pattern.
Really got a kick out of a call last night. I gave a copy of the
"Missing Piece" to a friend of mind and we worked on it all last
week. My buddy played with his friends and hit the ball 20 Yds
further, even reached a par 5 in 2. His buddies asked about
what looked like a move to the left in his swing. He told them
that it was the "Stack and Tilt". I told him what V.J. said about
the "Stack and Tilt" and he said, "I read that, but Hogan never
told the S.O.B.s his secret and I am not about to tell them mine."
My buddy says that V.J.s bump to the right at start helped a lot.
My buddy is a fan of Homer Kelley and likes to think of the left shoulder
in terms of the #4 pressure point. The marked dowel helped a lot
to get a picture of the address, low point and left shoulder.
...V.J.s bump to the right at start helped a lot...
No offense, but your Bud needs to look at Hogan's swing just prior to his accident in '48 when he was dominating the Tour. He'd see that Hogan was in near continous motion from waggle to follow thru and actually triggered his backswing start with a very slight inward move of the right knee after he set his feet. It does give the illusion of his right hip moving or bumping onto his right leg. From there Hogan turns onto his rear leg but never straightens it.
I received my book last week and have been doing the drills since then. Today, I went to the range to try out "the move" and I love it. Getting into the recommended position at the top greatly simplified the downswing for me and produced a crisp and centered rotation through the ball.
I am pleased with the results and recommend the book. The drills are very easy to follow.
Bucket et al......is the missing link move what actually stops the clubs backward movement? Do you have to be loose, loose,loose with the hands to really feel the rubber band stretch? Is this a fountain of youth move for the round belly set?
O.b.
I think I can speak with authority as the president of the round belly club, but not with authority on VJ's book.
VJ and I are planning to play golf very soon, so I'm waiting to see him to get my autographed copy of the book. Since I don't have the book, I'm going on the posts and speculation.
I am Hitting, but I use a 4 Accumulator pattern. So, I have a Swinger's Start Down. You may be able to see in these pictures that I move forward about 5 frames with my Hips, as my Clubhead continues back. I've made a small blue mark on my Left Hip to mark the beginning of forward motion. I have made red marks on the Clubhead, as it continues back. This change of direction places a heavy load on the shaft.
This was one of the highest speeds that I've achieved on tape at 123 mph. I'm not sure if this is exactly what VJ's talking about. But, I see this move in players that can really smash the ball.
Seems like we have the same "thumb" for all of these "nails".
They're not the same pics. They are six consecutive pictures taken from one stroke. It's hard to tell what's happening, because the marks that I've drawn on the pictures are very small. But, the hips start forward five frames before the club starts down.
In fact, there's a way to give it some action. If you'll open all six windows of pictures on your desktop, you can open the sixth first, and go 6,5,4,3,2,1. Open each of them on top of each other. The first picture should be on top of the six. If you minimize each window, one at a time, you'll see the motion. The hips move forward as the club goes back.
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