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Old 11-03-2006, 01:53 AM
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According to 7-14... the HIP TURN is "in itself," the Weight Shift. "Weight shift is strictly a HIP MOTION."

Let's discuss this, and the possible causes and effects of proper and improper execution of Weight Shift.
Lagster,
If you have the Golfing Machine book and can review 7-14, 7-15, 10-14, 10-15 then one might be able to understand your post/question but without the book- one would think that "The Hip Turn is in itself the Weight Shift"- That is -merely turning the hips produces the Weight Shift. Which is not what the book is saying.

Really doesn't make the best sense in the way he labeled the headings - personally I would have labeled 7-14 as "Hip Motion" and 7-15 as it is "Hip Action". That way you have a consistent differentiation based on the same standard. To label everything from full turn, to mostly all slide only- as Hip Turn- not the best use of terms if you ask me. Just makes things more confusing for most people in my opinion.

But he does that alot in regards to motion and action- For Example in 2-G he labels it Hinge Motion, while in 10-10 he labels that section as Hinge Action. Of course, there are multiple reasons why he didn't have an editor.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:27 PM
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Hip Turn=weight Shift
Originally Posted by Mike O
Lagster,
If you have the Golfing Machine book and can review 7-14, 7-15, 10-14, 10-15 then one might be able to understand your post/question but without the book- one would think that "The Hip Turn is in itself the Weight Shift"- That is -merely turning the hips produces the Weight Shift. Which is not what the book is saying.

Really doesn't make the best sense in the way he labeled the headings - personally I would have labeled 7-14 as "Hip Motion" and 7-15 as it is "Hip Action". That way you have a consistent differentiation based on the same standard. To label everything from full turn, to mostly all slide only- as Hip Turn- not the best use of terms if you ask me. Just makes things more confusing for most people in my opinion.

But he does that alot in regards to motion and action- For Example in 2-G he labels it Hinge Motion, while in 10-10 he labels that section as Hinge Action. Of course, there are multiple reasons why he didn't have an editor.
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Let's stay on Hip Turn and Weight Shift. Mr. Kelley does indicate that WEIGHT SHIFT is a "HIP MOTION." He says, for example "substituting a Head Motion and/or a Knee Motion"... is not it.

Now... there is a Shiftless Hip Turn, so it is possible to turn the hips without shifting weight, according to the book.

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