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Old 10-05-2006, 09:38 PM
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There should be plenty of information on THROWS on here. There are actually several kinds. Left Wrist Throw, Right Arm Throw, Right Shoulder Throw...and others. Chapter 10-20-0

This is very different than THROW-AWAY.

The Throw... triggers the Release.
So the "THROW" they're talking about in this video, is it the "wrist throw"?

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Old 10-05-2006, 10:01 PM
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Excellent - thank you
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Old 10-06-2006, 12:40 AM
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Throws In Combination
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So the "THROW" they're talking about in this video, is it the "wrist throw"?
The Left Wrist Throw (10-20-E) is what you see in the video. It is preceded by the Shoulder Turn Throw (10-20-C) that "blasts" the Left Arm off the chest. In an Automatic Snap Release, the Delivery Path Throw (10-20-D) produces the Wrist Throw.
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Old 10-06-2006, 01:22 AM
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I have to say that these videos opened my eyes to a misconception that I hand about horizontal hinging. We all know that HH has a full roll feel. Well, after mimmicking what I saw on the video, I realized that HH, for me, felt like no roll at all. Then I remembered why; the left wrist stays vertical to it's associated plane. My full roll feel was actually overrolling. Remember, Will, the Hinge pin is in the shoulder, not the wrist .

Keep those videos comin'. The visuals and associated explanations have really made learning TGM PROPERLY a lot easier. Not a replacement for a competent AI, but extremely helpful in lieu of.
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Old 10-06-2006, 11:26 AM
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Is this the wrong place to ask this question?:

What is the difference between non-automatic vs automatic release? Is non-automatic just to make it more of a sweep release?

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Old 10-08-2006, 10:59 AM
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Great Stuff Man!!! - Incubation #1
Gotta say, The Jeff Hull Video Series has become one of my all time favorites. I would estimate that I have spent at least 8 hours of watching them, be it in total or parts. They be GREAT!!!!

Some questions or points of clarifications (Sorry no particular order, just as they rolled out of the incubator)

1. In the third segment, about 70 seconds into it, Lynn begins to discuss the Acquired Motion, but I think it is just a mis-statement, he said "before in the Acquired Motion" (I think this should be Basic Motion) that it was either left arm pull or right arm push.... Not a biggie, I just want to make sure I didn't turn left when everyone else turned right. It should have been Basic Motion?

2. Jeff your waggle at address, on the Total Motion it appears that it is with the club above the ball at start whereas for the Basic and Acquire, the club head appeared to be at ground level. Is this normal, if so what is the reason or was this because of this being a demonstration?

3. What starts your waggle? Does the Tempo of your waggle relate to the shot at hand?

4. Jeff do you have a plane shift? I ask because in the first segment, you take a practice motion and then on your actual stroke it appears that you go to the spot, shoulder height, then up a bit to the top/end? Something on the order of single shift or maybe a double shift.

5. On Basic Motion, some of the shots appear as if the bending of the right wrist is increase at either the end of the back stroke or at the beginning of the down stroke. Is this something you try to do or is this, for the lack of a better words, some form of loading/setting to max out the distance on Basic Motion?

By the way, your shot looking at the camera while hitting was really impressive.

Thanks again for you time and effort in providing this great video series.
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Old 10-08-2006, 12:05 PM
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Summarizing the Basic Motion Curriculum
Originally Posted by Martee

In the third segment, about 70 seconds into it, Lynn begins to discuss the Acquired Motion, but I think it is just a mis-statement, he say before in the Acquired Motion (I think this should be Basic Motion) that it was either left arm pull or right arm push.... Not a biggie, I just want to make sure I didn't turn left when everyone else turned right. It should have been Basic Motion?
Yes, Martee, the same thing jumped out at me. As we moved into the Acquired Motion segment, I briefly summarized the immediately preceding Basic Motion and mistakenly said "Acquired" instead of "Basic." Oh well, the joys of the 'live' presentation! Fortunately, I later made a similar reference and got it right.

For the record, the Basic Motion (Stage One) is all about the Basic Body Positions, the Power Package alignments and the Arm Accumulators. The Acquired Motion (Stage Two) introduces Body Motion and the Hand Action Accumulators. The Total Motion (Stage Three) moves toward unrestricted motion, but still at less than full Power until alignments are perfected.

Stage Three is done first with the Middle Irons and then repeated with the Long Irons and Woods. Consequently, as Homer Kelley described it to me, there are actually five Stages in the Basic Motion Curriculum, not three.
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Yes, Martee, the same thing jumped out at me. As we moved into the Acquired Motion segment, I briefly summarized the immediately preceding Basic Motion and mistakenly said "Acquired" instead of "Basic." Oh well, the joys of the 'live' presentation! Fortunately, I later made a similar reference and got it right.

For the record, the Basic Motion (Stage One) is all about the Basic Body Positions, the Power Package alignments and the Arm Accumulators. The Acquired Motion (Stage Two) introduces Body Motion and the Hand Action Accumulators. The Total Motion (Stage Three) moves toward unrestricted motion, but still at less than full Power until alignments are perfected.

Stage Three is done first with the Middle Irons and then repeated with the Long Irons and Woods. Consequently, as Homer Kelley described it to me, there are actually five Stages in the Basic Motion Curriculum, not three.
Hold up . . . wait a minute . . .

Did you just admit a MISTAKE? A little birdie told me you don't do that???
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